lowing
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Legend888 wrote:

The original post was worth a few laughs. I'm guessing it wasn't meant to be an accurate and detailed chronical of Frances' Military history. I've got a few things to say though, in the First World War the people who contributed most to the Allied victory was.... Germany, then... FRANCE. Beacuase of Verdun (1916) the Germans where looking for a quick way out of the war because thier casualties where mounting. So in 1918 the Germans launched an allout attack on the allied lines, it was the British and the Anzacs who held the line and caused the Germans to loose almost half thier army, by the time America had joined the war it was already won.
Also you Americans are in no position to critise other people, let alone their military history... let me remind you that you let a guerilla army with peashooters give you a wooping! And you are now inbreech of the declaration independance you love so much in locking people up with giving them a fair trial.
And just so you know the only reason why we won WWII is because of my country winning the Battle of Britian and subsequently gaining air superiority, and the fact that Hitler was the worst Military leader ever!!!!

Learn to laugh and know when you've crossed the line.
Whenever I boast about WW2 I have always given credit to all the allies, not just America, for you are most correct..the Battle of Britain was indeed a testiment to the people of England and her proud defience against oppression......WW1, I will bow to you on that point as well.....America probly didn't do much to achieve over all victory except to say, hey, we were late but we showed up.

The attempt to say we are breaking our own Decleration of Independance I will dispute......These people are not civilian criminals locked away for burglary, they are POWs, and should be held as such until this war is over.....if you want to show disdain or disgust for mistreatment of people that are held captive, please direct it toward the mistreatment, beheadings, torture, killings of most of the people taken and held hostage by the  very groups of people we hold in detention....You can start with the most recent...Tom Fox
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
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France has the only Mcdonalds with a white M ! how about that (heard that from somewere, seen the mcdonalds too, in paris)
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herrr_smity
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lowing wrote:

Pubic wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

why don't you quit dissing the french what ever have they don to you.
Comitted an act of state terrorism in my country.
Please explain......I am curious
me to
Shin_Seffron
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Speaking of french military victories... check this out

http://www.digitaltoast.co.uk/gallery/m … itemId=298
lowing
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Shin_Seffron wrote:

Speaking of french military victories... check this out

http://www.digitaltoast.co.uk/gallery/m … itemId=298
LMAO!!!....ohhhhhhh noooooooooooo!!!!!
Jepeto87
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+38|6905|Dublin

lowing wrote:

Whenever I boast about WW2 I have always given credit to all the allies, not just America, for you are most correct..the Battle of Britain was indeed a testiment to the people of England and her proud defience against oppression......WW1, I will bow to you on that point as well.....America probly didn't do much to achieve over all victory except to say, hey, we were late but we showed up.

The attempt to say we are breaking our own Decleration of Independance I will dispute......These people are not civilian criminals locked away for burglary, they are POWs, and should be held as such until this war is over.....if you want to show disdain or disgust for mistreatment of people that are held captive, please direct it toward the mistreatment, beheadings, torture, killings of most of the people taken and held hostage by the  very groups of people we hold in detention....You can start with the most recent...Tom Fox
How can a war on "terror" ever end?
Shin_Seffron
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Jepeto87 wrote:

How can a war on "terror" ever end?
When no one has anything to be scared of... EVER...
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F*ckers
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Shin_Seffron wrote:

Jepeto87 wrote:

How can a war on "terror" ever end?
When no one has anything to be scared of... EVER...
Shin Seffron you are scary man
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lowing
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Jepeto87 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Whenever I boast about WW2 I have always given credit to all the allies, not just America, for you are most correct..the Battle of Britain was indeed a testiment to the people of England and her proud defience against oppression......WW1, I will bow to you on that point as well.....America probly didn't do much to achieve over all victory except to say, hey, we were late but we showed up.

The attempt to say we are breaking our own Decleration of Independance I will dispute......These people are not civilian criminals locked away for burglary, they are POWs, and should be held as such until this war is over.....if you want to show disdain or disgust for mistreatment of people that are held captive, please direct it toward the mistreatment, beheadings, torture, killings of most of the people taken and held hostage by the  very groups of people we hold in detention....You can start with the most recent...Tom Fox
How can a war on "terror" ever end?
In my mind the only way a war on terror can end is by world involvement in its eradictation....All countries stepping up to the plate and saying enough........If there is one country that harbors terrorists or their activities, it will never be won.........the people of the world need to make it known, that this type of behavior will not be tolerated, no matter what beliefs you hold., their are more rational, moderates in this world than terrorists

Last edited by lowing (2006-03-12 09:45:44)

Jepeto87
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But that wont ever happen, I dont think its even possible!

"One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter"

And its true, there's several terrorist groups in Ireland and in the recent past (im talking about the 90's) they (the republican ones) recieved funding from Irish-Americans who knew little about the conflict yet still used there wages to help fund these organizations fight whats they believed to be a noble cause. I doubt the British goverment felt this way!

And what about the US equiping the opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, I doubt the American administration referred to them as terrorists (but the Soviets certainly did) at the time but now thats exactly what the US calls the remnants of the Taliban.

(Sorry to use the US for yet another example but most people are aware of these events)

Anyway define terror, should scumbags that terrorise neighbourhoods be locked up without trial or charges? (mmmmmmmm its tempting I know)

I think I know what your trying to say  Lowing but I think you being too broad and naive (no offense I would be great if it was achieved)

Cheers

Last edited by Jepeto87 (2006-03-12 10:10:36)

The Bartenders Son
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what did the French every do for freedom?... hmmmm
The Bartenders Son
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herrr_smity wrote:

lowing wrote:

Pubic wrote:


Comitted an act of state terrorism in my country.
Please explain......I am curious
me to
thats says it all people.... LMFAO
lowing
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+1,662|6871|USA

Jepeto87 wrote:

But that wont ever happen, I dont think its even possible!

"One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter"

And its true, there's several terrorist groups in Ireland and in the recent past (im talking about the 90's) they (the republican ones) recieved funding from Irish-Americans who knew little about the conflict yet still used there wages to help fund these organizations fight whats they believed to be a noble cause. I doubt the British goverment felt this way!

And what about the US equiping the opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, I doubt the American administration referred to them as terrorists (but the Soviets certainly did) at the time but now thats exactly what the US calls the remnants of the Taliban.

(Sorry to use the US for yet another example but most people are aware of these events)

Anyway define terror, should scumbags that terrorise neighbourhoods be locked up without trial or charges? (mmmmmmmm its tempting I know)

I think I know what your trying to say  Lowing but I think you being too broad and naive (no offense I would be great if it was achieved)

Cheers
no I agree with you.....it is very naive to think that it will ever happen.......but the only alternative is to sucumb to threats and be turned into puppets on a string......America will never do that.

Fighting for your country is 1 thing......we never called germany or Japan terrorists. same with the mujahadeen they were never terrorist back then. there country was invaded and they fought back....noone looks at the French resistance as terrorism.......The discription of 911 and the happenings around the world IS terrorism by any definition......


dictionary.com......Terrorism--The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

NOt freedom fighters or insurgents....these groups of people are killing their own countrymen to intimidate them to bend to their will. period...thx Jepeto87
Jepeto87
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Thanks cool, I agree with you Lowing
Spark
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I posted a link somewhere to an article.

It said Jacques Chirac would be prepared to nuke any rogue terrorist sate that attacked France.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
herrr_smity
Member
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The Bartenders Son wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

lowing wrote:


Please explain......I am curious
me to
thats says it all people.... LMFAO
aaa the sinking of the greenpeace ship
sherlock4111
Member
+0|6841|Frankfurt, Germany

lowing wrote:

Jepeto87 wrote:

But that wont ever happen, I dont think its even possible!

"One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter"

And its true, there's several terrorist groups in Ireland and in the recent past (im talking about the 90's) they (the republican ones) recieved funding from Irish-Americans who knew little about the conflict yet still used there wages to help fund these organizations fight whats they believed to be a noble cause. I doubt the British goverment felt this way!

And what about the US equiping the opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, I doubt the American administration referred to them as terrorists (but the Soviets certainly did) at the time but now thats exactly what the US calls the remnants of the Taliban.

(Sorry to use the US for yet another example but most people are aware of these events)

Anyway define terror, should scumbags that terrorise neighbourhoods be locked up without trial or charges? (mmmmmmmm its tempting I know)

I think I know what your trying to say  Lowing but I think you being too broad and naive (no offense I would be great if it was achieved)

Cheers
no I agree with you.....it is very naive to think that it will ever happen.......but the only alternative is to sucumb to threats and be turned into puppets on a string......America will never do that.

Fighting for your country is 1 thing......we never called germany or Japan terrorists. same with the mujahadeen they were never terrorist back then. there country was invaded and they fought back....noone looks at the French resistance as terrorism.......The discription of 911 and the happenings around the world IS terrorism by any definition......


dictionary.com......Terrorism--The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

NOt freedom fighters or insurgents....these groups of people are killing their own countrymen to intimidate them to bend to their will. period...thx Jepeto87
there's no chance to eradicate terrorism the way the west is trying it now. it has to be found a way to talk those guys or at least to understand what is happening(I know it sounds crazy). but many people in the middle east think of terrorists as freedom fighters. as long as this will happen terrorism will have the support (or sympathy) of many in that region. i suppose many in the middle eastern region feel intimidated by the conflicts and the involvement that were caused by the west (first by the split up of the osman empire (france - uk) -> israelo-palestina problem, later the involvement of the west to secure resources (oil or even the protection of the suez-channel -i intentionally don't name the US only!).
at least western countries could find a way to negotiate. perhaps understand why those madmen do what they do. perhaps being more independent of oil as Sweden has aimed to do recently could be a solution.
i hope nobody will tk me for this... ;-)
lowing
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sherlock4111 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Jepeto87 wrote:

But that wont ever happen, I dont think its even possible!

"One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter"

And its true, there's several terrorist groups in Ireland and in the recent past (im talking about the 90's) they (the republican ones) recieved funding from Irish-Americans who knew little about the conflict yet still used there wages to help fund these organizations fight whats they believed to be a noble cause. I doubt the British goverment felt this way!

And what about the US equiping the opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, I doubt the American administration referred to them as terrorists (but the Soviets certainly did) at the time but now thats exactly what the US calls the remnants of the Taliban.

(Sorry to use the US for yet another example but most people are aware of these events)

Anyway define terror, should scumbags that terrorise neighbourhoods be locked up without trial or charges? (mmmmmmmm its tempting I know)

I think I know what your trying to say  Lowing but I think you being too broad and naive (no offense I would be great if it was achieved)

Cheers
no I agree with you.....it is very naive to think that it will ever happen.......but the only alternative is to sucumb to threats and be turned into puppets on a string......America will never do that.

Fighting for your country is 1 thing......we never called germany or Japan terrorists. same with the mujahadeen they were never terrorist back then. there country was invaded and they fought back....noone looks at the French resistance as terrorism.......The discription of 911 and the happenings around the world IS terrorism by any definition......


dictionary.com......Terrorism--The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

NOt freedom fighters or insurgents....these groups of people are killing their own countrymen to intimidate them to bend to their will. period...thx Jepeto87
there's no chance to eradicate terrorism the way the west is trying it now. it has to be found a way to talk those guys or at least to understand what is happening(I know it sounds crazy). but many people in the middle east think of terrorists as freedom fighters. as long as this will happen terrorism will have the support (or sympathy) of many in that region. i suppose many in the middle eastern region feel intimidated by the conflicts and the involvement that were caused by the west (first by the split up of the osman empire (france - uk) -> israelo-palestina problem, later the involvement of the west to secure resources (oil or even the protection of the suez-channel -i intentionally don't name the US only!).
at least western countries could find a way to negotiate. perhaps understand why those madmen do what they do. perhaps being more independent of oil as Sweden has aimed to do recently could be a solution.
i hope nobody will tk me for this... ;-)
Nope, you are correct........The free world needs to win the hearts and minds of the middle easterners...and that will never happen.......you are also correct in my opinion, that developing alternative energies sources and moving away from oil is the only way the free world can be "uninvolved" in the crisis over there.... Oil is the only bargaining chip they have, and it is the only means they have to finance terror.....take away the need for oil and you have cut them off at the knees. then, perhaps, then they will calm down and listen to reason..but I seriously doubt it
wannabe_tank_whore
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The only 2 victorious leaders/warriors *I can think of* are Charlemagne and Napoleon.  The rest they did lose.  To the Frenchman, France would no longer be a country if it weren't for the US and England.
Jepeto87
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Well if England had there way in from befor the 100 year war to the Napoleon era France wouldn exist ethier! Just a taught!
vonSteuben
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wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

The only 2 victorious leaders/warriors *I can think of* are Charlemagne and Napoleon.  The rest they did lose.  To the Frenchman, France would no longer be a country if it weren't for the US and England.
To the Yankee, the US wouldn't be a country if it weren't for Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette and Friedrich Wilhelm Ludolf Gerhard Augustin Baron von Steuben
RonSeal
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May i, enquire as to why a thread entitled 'French Military Victories' has reached a 2nd page?

LaidBackNinja
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Just one thing though: Corsica, or La Corse, is an island that is part of France, so Napoleon was actually a Frenchman. And saying that France "stabbed their allies" in the back, only because they didn't go along on your hunt for imaginary weapons of mass destruction is very childish.

It's funny to see how easily the American public can me influenced. France says no to the war in Iraq and overnight it becomes a cowardly country, and you all act like it's always been that way.
One day I woke up and it was like "hey so we all hate France now?"
And you were like: "No, we ALWAYS hated France... somehow  we just failed to mention it up until this point."

Last edited by LaidBackNinja (2006-03-13 12:33:06)

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wannabe_tank_whore
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LaidBackNinja wrote:

Just one thing though: Corsica, or La Corse, is an island that is part of France, so Napoleon was actually a Frenchman. And saying that France "stabbed their allies" in the back, only because they didn't go along on your hunt for imaginary weapons of mass destruction is very childish.

It's funny to see how easily the American public can me influenced. France says no to the war in Iraq and overnight it becomes a cowardly country, and you all act like it's always been that way.
One day I woke up and it was like "hey so we all hate France now?"
And you were like: "No, we ALWAYS hated France... somehow  we just failed to mention it up until this point."
Fact check:
France opposed the war because they were getting kickbacks from the oil for food scandel... along with russia.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040321 … -2593r.htm
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