Gun politics, firearms ownership, and US 2nd amendment discussion

2015-10-12 13:21:50

#3351

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3936

So the guy who shot up the college was wearing body armor and got shot. He then retreated into the class and killed himself.

I know we don't have an epidemic of people committing crimes wearing body armor with ceramic plates and bullet proof mask.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/f3bf438afa5e9daa8f9e0a9a87269114/tumblr_mrgmdaVrFt1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg

It is a little weird that you can order military grade body armor to your home and all you need is a credit card. I don't see how a heavy vest with ceramic plates is useful outside of firefights. Not sure why your average Joe in the suburbs needs one.

Not saying it should be banned. It's just strange that these things are so easily available.

2015-10-12 13:33:54

#3352

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:
So the guy who shot up the college was wearing body armor and got shot. He then retreated into the class and killed himself.

I know we don't have an epidemic of people committing crimes wearing body armor with ceramic plates and bullet proof mask.

It is a little weird that you can order military grade body armor to your home and all you need is a credit card. I don't see how a heavy vest with ceramic plates is useful outside of firefights. Not sure why your average Joe in the suburbs needs one.

Not saying it should be banned. It's just strange that these things are so easily available.

Pretty sure if that mask actually worked you'd see it used by cops and soldiers

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-10-12 13:40:03

#3353

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6933

oh they work. but your face is still going to get fucked up by the kinetic energy.

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2015-10-12 13:40:13

#3354

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3936

Jay wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
So the guy who shot up the college was wearing body armor and got shot. He then retreated into the class and killed himself.

I know we don't have an epidemic of people committing crimes wearing body armor with ceramic plates and bullet proof mask.

It is a little weird that you can order military grade body armor to your home and all you need is a credit card. I don't see how a heavy vest with ceramic plates is useful outside of firefights. Not sure why your average Joe in the suburbs needs one.

Not saying it should be banned. It's just strange that these things are so easily available.
Pretty sure if that mask actually worked you'd see it used by cops and soldiers

The caption said that is Taiwanese special forces.

There are videos on the internet with people shooting the mask and it not penetrating

https://youtu.be/JISua6nuk3A

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2015-10-12 14:00:29

#3355

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6988|PNW

It bounced off! We didn't penetrate their armor! That one didn't go through! We've just dinged them!

2015-10-13 21:28:59

#3356

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6930|Purplicious Wisconsin

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
It bounced off! We didn't penetrate their armor! That one didn't go through! We've just dinged them!

World of Tanks quoting?

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2015-10-15 12:19:21

#3357

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6848|949

Toddlers are using guns at a rate of roughly once a week in the US.
Are the gun owners being charged with negligence. I'd say that if you can't lock up a fucking gun around a toddler, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

2015-10-15 12:20:11

#3358

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +691|6507|Washington St.

or a toddler

2015-10-15 14:03:45

#3359

Steve-0: Karma limited. Contact Admin to Be Promoted.; +215|4176|SL,UT

pirana6 wrote:
or a toddler

2015-10-15 14:22:06

#3360

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Toddlers are using guns at a rate of roughly once a week in the US.
Are the gun owners being charged with negligence. I'd say that if you can't lock up a fucking gun around a toddler, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.

1 incident per state per year is hardly an epidemic... it's almost like the publisher is looking for cheap click bait headlines in order to push a policy agenda...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-10-15 14:57:09

#3361

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6953|Oxferd Ohire

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2015-10-15 14:57:16

#3362

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3936

Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Toddlers are using guns at a rate of roughly once a week in the US.
Are the gun owners being charged with negligence. I'd say that if you can't lock up a fucking gun around a toddler, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
1 incident per state per year is hardly an epidemic... it's almost like the publisher is looking for cheap click bait headlines in order to push a policy agenda...

How many deaths does something take until it is relevant? Like an actual number.

2015-10-15 15:01:28

#3363

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|6925|England. Stoke

Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Toddlers are using guns at a rate of roughly once a week in the US.
Are the gun owners being charged with negligence. I'd say that if you can't lock up a fucking gun around a toddler, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
1 incident per state per year is hardly an epidemic... it's almost like the publisher is looking for cheap click bait headlines in order to push a policy agenda...

What if it was your kid?

2015-10-15 15:05:37

#3364

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3936

His kid should have kept improving his skills not to shot himself.

2015-10-15 15:08:05

#3365

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|6925|England. Stoke

SuperJail Warden wrote:
His kid should have kept improving his skills not to shot himself.

True.
Clearly a non-issue...

2015-10-15 15:08:28

#3366

uziq: Member; +493|3669

the market will automatically intervene and make sure jay's kid does not shoot himself. just let the mechanics resolve themselves.

2015-10-15 15:08:46

#3367

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

coke wrote:
Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Toddlers are using guns at a rate of roughly once a week in the US.
Are the gun owners being charged with negligence. I'd say that if you can't lock up a fucking gun around a toddler, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
1 incident per state per year is hardly an epidemic... it's almost like the publisher is looking for cheap click bait headlines in order to push a policy agenda...
What if it was your kid?

I don't have a gun in the house

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-10-15 15:09:38

#3368

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

I'm just saying, 320,000,000 people, 50 incidents per year...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-10-15 15:12:44

#3369

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|6925|England. Stoke

Jay wrote:
coke wrote:
Jay wrote:

1 incident per state per year is hardly an epidemic... it's almost like the publisher is looking for cheap click bait headlines in order to push a policy agenda...
What if it was your kid?
I don't have a gun in the house

But others do, your kid could be visiting friends/relatives etc. and there could be an accident waiting to happen.

2015-10-15 15:15:30

#3370

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

coke wrote:
Jay wrote:
coke wrote:

What if it was your kid?
I don't have a gun in the house
But others do, your kid could be visiting friends/relatives etc. and there could be an accident waiting to happen.

Nah, this is shit you'd expect from meth heads. And my wife and I are rather attentive. I'll take my chances

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-10-15 15:22:34

#3371

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6848|949

Jay wrote:
I'm just saying, 320,000,000 people, 50 incidents per year...

you mean 24 million- the total population of children 0-5 years old. It's a fucking problem, dude. You can't just obfuscate the issue by comparing it to the total population of the US or by reducing it to "one instance per state, per year".

Did you look at the map in the article (doubtful, since you probably didn't even click the link).

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/14345/toddler%20gun%20map.png

What sticks out to you?

2015-10-15 15:22:42

#3372

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3936

Jay wrote:
coke wrote:
Jay wrote:
I don't have a gun in the house
But others do, your kid could be visiting friends/relatives etc. and there could be an accident waiting to happen.
Nah, this is shit you'd expect from meth heads. And my wife and I are rather attentive. I'll take my chances

It isn't always a meth head leaving a gun on a table in these cases. It often is a kid showing one of their parents guns off to another kid and accidentally killing them. Or a kid finding one under a bed or in a closet in a game of hide and seek and shooting themselves.

2015-10-15 15:24:15

#3373

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3936

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Jay wrote:
I'm just saying, 320,000,000 people, 50 incidents per year...
you mean 24 million- the total population of children 0-5 years old. It's a fucking problem, dude. You can't just obfuscate the issue by comparing it to the total population of the US or by reducing it to "one instance per state, per year".

Did you look at the map in the article (doubtful, since you probably didn't even click the link).

What sticks out to you?

West Virginia. Really surprised those coal miners aren't more irresponsible.

2015-10-15 15:26:12

#3374

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:
Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Toddlers are using guns at a rate of roughly once a week in the US.
Are the gun owners being charged with negligence. I'd say that if you can't lock up a fucking gun around a toddler, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
1 incident per state per year is hardly an epidemic... it's almost like the publisher is looking for cheap click bait headlines in order to push a policy agenda...
How many deaths does something take until it is relevant? Like an actual number.

How about when the number of incidents exceeds the number of annual million dollar lottery winners.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-10-15 15:27:53

#3375

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5574|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Jay wrote:
I'm just saying, 320,000,000 people, 50 incidents per year...
you mean 24 million- the total population of children 0-5 years old. It's a fucking problem, dude. You can't just obfuscate the issue by comparing it to the total population of the US or by reducing it to "one instance per state, per year".

Did you look at the map in the article (doubtful, since you probably didn't even click the link).

What sticks out to you?

Meth and rural. So what?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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