BF2S Forums The Official Jaded Thread

Macbeth wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Can't help it if you make up oxymorons.

Anyway, you have a two-party system, as your founding fathers intended. There is no 'spectrum' and you're not a libertarian.

Furthermore, I am an Australian citizen now, so I'm as Australian as the (current) PM.

G Wash said a two-party system was one of the worst things that could happen IIRC.

Eh? Our country's first serious political debate was between the federalist and anti federalist. The first and only two parties running in the first election were the federalist and democrat-republican.

The system was borked in it's own way since the start.

Washington did talk about the party thing in his farewell address. parties naturally creating rivalries which lead to unnecessary fighting that pushes the opposing parties under the water and in different ages of history causes "frightful despotism"

"This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind."

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Can't help it if I understand the American political spectrum better than an Australia-dwelling Brit.

Can't help it if you make up oxymorons.

Anyway, you have a two-party system, as your founding fathers intended. There is no 'spectrum' and you're not a libertarian.

Furthermore, I am an Australian citizen now, so I'm as Australian as the (current) PM.

No, we don't. How many times do you have to be told something before it sticks? Yes, our system is dominated by two parties. That's not the same thing as having a two-party system.

As Washington stated, it's the tendency of man to devolve to two sides.

There is quite a spectrum, and I most certainly am libertarian in my views. The fact that I disagree with you on nearly every position doesn't mean I don't hold libertarian ideals and use those to frame my political choices.

In fact, I'm willing to bet you haven't the foggiest clue what a libertarian actually is. You probably think it's some amped up version of a librarian...in which case, your assessment would be correct.

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

No, we don't. How many times do you have to be told something before it sticks? Yes, our system is dominated by two parties. That's not the same thing as having a two-party system.

And the effective difference is ....... nothing.

Actually, the effective difference is dramatic. If it were a two-party system as you describe, then I wouldn't have been able to cast the vote I did in the last presidential election and Clinton wouldn't have been elected in 92.

The founding fathers, an elite group of rich white men, put in place, without any democratic input from the people, a system of government guaranteed to result in a  two-party system dominated by the rich elite eternally.

LRN2HISTORY. The Constitution was ratified by all 13 states. It was hardly put in place by fiat.

There is quite a spectrum, and I most certainly am libertarian in my views.

But not in your actions, working for the govt in the military and all.

So my job dictates my political views? Are you seriously going to make that argument?

Libertarian views and military service are somehow irreconcilable, right? Sounds like someone needs to study up on libertarianism.

Aren't you the one who pointed out that Ron Paul gets more donations than any other candidate? Did you forget that he ran on the Libertarian ticket in the past?

No need to answer.

And the 'spectrum' is irrelevant since its voice is not heard.

Of course it is. That's why this primary wasn't over after NH.

would you two homos take that shit to dst please

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

If it were a two-party system as you describe, then I wouldn't have been able to cast the vote I did in the last presidential election.

Did a candidate from a third party get elected? No? You threw away your vote.

I did no such thing. The only vote that's thrown away is the one that isn't cast.

LRN2HISTORY. The Constitution was ratified by all 13 states. It was hardly put in place by fiat.

How many options did they have to pick from?
How much input to the only option did the people have?

The Constitution wasn't the first try at a legal framework for the US. The populations selected representatives from each state to participate in the writing of the Constitution. Volumes of letters were written and published.

So...plenty on both counts.

Again, LRN2HISTORY.

So my job dictates my political views? Are you seriously going to make that argument?

Derp. The fact that your job does not align with your supposed views speaks for itself, like Jay and his Ayn Rand BS when he probably still isn't a net taxpayer.

Please...OH PLEASE...tell me how my job doesn't align with my views.

Would you like your shovel now? You're doing pretty good digging that intellectual hole.

Aren't you the one who pointed out that Ron Paul gets more donations than any other candidate?

No

Actually, you have.

Did you forget that he ran on the Libertarian ticket in the past?

No

Apparently you did.

No need to answer.

Yeah there is.

Yes. Take every opportunity you can to show how little you know.

Of course it is. That's why this primary wasn't over after NH.

It will still be a choice between Republican, Democrat or the Wasted Vote party.

Right now, yes. Except for the last bit. You should be happy...if a third party presents a decent candidate, Obama will probably get re-elected.

askpaisa wrote:

Great posting guys.

i for one enjoy the entralling exchanges betweenb Fee and Dil

Mutantbear wrote:

Im so jaded, bf2s BF3S. The internet is so full of incorrect opinions and terrible people that I just cant keep a positive attitude. Everything is the same day after day and it's so draining. I can't enjoy the internet anymore,. Tthere is nothing good on it and there never will be.

This thread is here for you to post all of your jaded feelings.

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Ilocano wrote:

I'm so jaded, I ignored all posts above this post that had quote boxes.

coke wrote:

Too many Americans.

That's what Saddam said.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

Im so jaded, bf2s BF3S. The internet is so full of incorrect opinions and terrible people that I just can't keep a positive attitude. Everything is the same day after day and it's so draining. I can't enjoy the internet anymore,. Tthere is nothing good on it and there never will be.

This thread is here for you to post all of your jaded feelings.

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fixed dunkass

Can't catch 'em all on first edit.



e: I'm so jaded that I'd like to organize tools in the shop, but know they'll be strewn all over the place the minute someone else picks up a wrench.

Ah insults, its easy to know when you know you've lost.
Explain how your libertarian philosphy squares with working in drug interdiction and bombing a sovereign country, to name two.

Under your system any vote not for Rep or Dem is thrown away, you know this, why are you arguing?