Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688

Blade4509 wrote:

Isn't there an unusually large number of hackers in F2P games? Look at Combat Arms for example. If not trying to hate here. Just wondering what the motivation is if it's just going to get hacked to death.
just because it's free to play you guess there's no anti-cheat? there is still a cash-flow in this game. developers still want to make a good game.

also have you even looked at the gameplay videos? what sort of hack would profit here? wallhack? aimbot? lol
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Blade4509
Wrench turnin' fool
+202|5726|America
Yes, I watched some of the vids, and that's fantastic. Good sign that there is some kind of anti-cheat program in this game. It's a good sign of quality. Though you know just as well as I do, that hackers run rampant in MOST of the previously released F2P style games. Lackadaisical development is usually to blame because most of the developers don't feel the need to put a lot into a game that doesn't yield much return.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
i think you're missing the point: all hacks in this game would be useless, anyway. the game doesn't have hitscan combat. an aimbot or wallhack would give you zero advantage. it's all player skill.

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Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6182|London, England

king hyperbole
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
do you disagree? a hacker would have to rewrite the game's code to be able to make anything that could give an unfair advantage.
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NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

What about the sniper?
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Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6182|London, England

if there is a working aimbot of course it would give an advantage even if it not nearly as effective in games without hitscan

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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
sniper isn't really effective against anyone that is going 150km/h+. i have no idea how a game with slow moving projectiles is gonna benefit from an aimbot. as soon as you get into rank10+ and everyone knows how to ski and move around quick, an aimbot would make no effective difference at all. you need the player's intution to guess where they're going to be. you can't code that.
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NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

I thought the sniper was hitscan?
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
it is, technically, but when a light class is going 150-200+ shooting them becomes near impossible. i've never seen an aimbot that keeps a perfect-scanning aim, i.e. that updates enough to constantly hover the reticule over the player model. i just think it would be technically unfeasible in this game. not to mention all of the cover and hills to ski up and down. it's not like call of duty where you go stand in the middle of the map and hold down mouse+1 with your bot engaged.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
here's a 'smart' aimbot, apparently the best.



as you can see, everyone is going slow, shitty noob server.

and i'm pretty sure this game has anti-cheat as well, which puts it in the same position as nearly every single other FPS game on the planet.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6892|Canberra, AUS
hahahaha is that serious? half of those people were moving still or in straight lines. i mean come on, surely they can do better than that.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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Spark wrote:

hahahaha is that serious? half of those people were moving still or in straight lines. i mean come on, surely they can do better than that.
You try turning while skiing, I mostly have to use the jetpack to try to change course and even that may not work sometimes.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6892|Canberra, AUS
i've seen enough footage of this game to know that you didn't need an aimbot to kill most of those players.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688

Spark wrote:

hahahaha is that serious? half of those people were moving still or in straight lines. i mean come on, surely they can do better than that.
it's a video made by the aimbot producers. they're selling it. of course they want to make it look good.

most of those people being killed were bots, afaik. they move in straight lines and don't strafe.

this is what i mean about a hack being impossible to make for a game: the maths involved in predicting a human player's movement through the air means human intuition > a formula, every time. it's too complex. you can strafe, change direction, drop/gain altitude, boost yourself, etc. any number of things that will change velocities, vectors, any number of variables... (not to mention the connection and ping itself). when players move at the speeds they do, making an aimbot is practically impossible for a projectile-based gun. you'd have to recode the game itself to add homing-missile qualities to your projectiles

i mean, come on... yes, certain weapons are hitscan, but not in the same way as regular hitscan games are. think of bf/cod: all weapons - assuming the connection is fine - immediately hit their target (there is a distance dropoff in bf games but this can be factored into an aimbot quite easily, the numbers are out there on the web). players move slowly along an x/y axis. it's easy to plot and predict and, what's more, the distances involved are tiny and comparatively close-quarter. in games like tribes the maps are HUGE, giant expanses, with players moving along the x/y and z axes. even snipers with hitscan have to 'lead' their shots slightly on fast moving targets. it's just not a very feasible hack against anything other than bots/extremely bad slow players.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-13 08:26:28)

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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Who would buy an aimbot anyway? Chances are, it'll get fixed and become useless, get you banned or both.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
you'd be surprised. there is a huge market for this thing. they cost as much as the normal games... which you then get cd-key banned from.
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6989|PNW

It still saps all possible fun out of things. Even when I was knee deep in hack-vs-hack matches during the height of Jedi Knight 1 and its ridiculously open-ended engine, any kind of autoaim made things mega boring.

I suppose the same kind of people who will drop hundreds of dollars of real money on Warcraft shit would go for it though.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
yep. for some people it's not about playing the game, it's about being the best. in the most shallow way possible.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
looking for a streaming service to save recordings of this

me and dauntless are reaching godmode
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Miggle
FUCK UBISOFT
+1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

xsplit
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
we're throwing the flags to each other in midair and everything. it's graceful.
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6849|949

Where do I download this game
ROGUEDD
BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.
+452|5606|Fuck this.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Where do I download this game
Uzi posted a link last page:

Uzique wrote:

this game is fucking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1uo0ZcUNI

if you don't have it, get it for free from my referral link:

https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribes … aign=email

it has got much better in the last month or so, and is shaping up to be a really good competitive fps

Last edited by ROGUEDD (2012-04-13 20:55:32)

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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
yeah sign up with my referral link it gives me bonus xp to buy weapons that i already have.
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