All religions are dangerous and pray on the weak minded. They are all complete hoaxes and have no business in a 21st century world! I can understand young children believing in Santa because they are young and their minds are very impressionable. But to believe in such bullshit as an adult in my opinion constitutes a mental illness!
That is a pretty edgy and original thought.cdailey2142 wrote:
All religions are dangerous and pray on the weak minded. They are all complete hoaxes and have no business in a 21st century world! I can understand young children believing in Santa because they are young and their minds are very impressionable. But to believe in such bullshit as an adult in my opinion constitutes a mental illness!
very original indeed
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Freudian slip.
Freudian slip.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
lolMacbeth wrote:
That is a pretty edgy and original thought.cdailey2142 wrote:
All religions are dangerous and pray on the weak minded. They are all complete hoaxes and have no business in a 21st century world! I can understand young children believing in Santa because they are young and their minds are very impressionable. But to believe in such bullshit as an adult in my opinion constitutes a mental illness!
I find the mental illness part offensive. Being someone who works with people who have mental illness (anxiety disorder, clinical depression, PTSD, shizophrenia, bipolar, disassociative identity disorder, borderline personality disorder, schizoaffective disorder, etc.) I find the correlation of someone believing in organised religion (of which an intelligent friend of mine does) constituting a mental illness as being pretty ignorant. A bit like the people you're accusing of being.
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.Jaekus wrote:
lolMacbeth wrote:
That is a pretty edgy and original thought.cdailey2142 wrote:
All religions are dangerous and pray on the weak minded. They are all complete hoaxes and have no business in a 21st century world! I can understand young children believing in Santa because they are young and their minds are very impressionable. But to believe in such bullshit as an adult in my opinion constitutes a mental illness!
I find the mental illness part offensive. Being someone who works with people who have mental illness (anxiety disorder, clinical depression, PTSD, shizophrenia, bipolar, disassociative identity disorder, borderline personality disorder, schizoaffective disorder, etc.) I find the correlation of someone believing in organised religion (of which an intelligent friend of mine does) constituting a mental illness as being pretty ignorant. A bit like the people you're accusing of being.
Right, because what is 'normal'? Wholly arbitrary.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
A person living in their own fantasy world, has no money and no power to help themselves is a schizophrenic. A powerful, rich person who is living in their own fantasy world is.... a politician?Jay wrote:
Right, because what is 'normal'? Wholly arbitrary.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.
It should be greatly disturbing to anyone with any sense of decency that very troubled people with little/nothing to live for are forever branded as insane simply because of their personalities.
Just stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.Jaekus wrote:
lolMacbeth wrote:
That is a pretty edgy and original thought.
I find the mental illness part offensive. Being someone who works with people who have mental illness (anxiety disorder, clinical depression, PTSD, shizophrenia, bipolar, disassociative identity disorder, borderline personality disorder, schizoaffective disorder, etc.) I find the correlation of someone believing in organised religion (of which an intelligent friend of mine does) constituting a mental illness as being pretty ignorant. A bit like the people you're accusing of being.
Because the schizophrenic's 'world' is a manifestation of the mind, whilst the politicians world, is real, and influenced by external factors?Spearhead wrote:
A person living in their own fantasy world, has no money and no power to help themselves is a schizophrenic. A powerful, rich person who is living in their own fantasy world is.... a politician?Jay wrote:
Right, because what is 'normal'? Wholly arbitrary.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.
It should be greatly disturbing to anyone with any sense of decency that very troubled people with little/nothing to live for are forever branded as insane simply because of their personalities.
Have you even talked or met someone with schizophrenia?Spearhead wrote:
A person living in their own fantasy world, has no money and no power to help themselves is a schizophrenic. A powerful, rich person who is living in their own fantasy world is.... a politician?Jay wrote:
Right, because what is 'normal'? Wholly arbitrary.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.
It should be greatly disturbing to anyone with any sense of decency that very troubled people with little/nothing to live for are forever branded as insane simply because of their personalities.
I work and talk to people with these conditions on a daily basis. I hear their stories, how having a mental illness is hard and the whole medical system is pretty fucked from a patient perspective.
Please, just stop now, you're sounding like a clueless idiot.
I've seen this before. Growing up Christian but still reading about mythology, it wasn't very long until I sniffed out the plagiaristic bullshit from the heaven/hell system.
But it still makes for a good video game.
John is talking out of his ass again.Jay wrote:
Right, because what is 'normal'? Wholly arbitrary.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.
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Yes, I have. In fact my best friends father has it.Jaekus wrote:
Have you even talked or met someone with schizophrenia?
I work and talk to people with these conditions on a daily basis. I hear their stories, how having a mental illness is hard and the whole medical system is pretty fucked from a patient perspective.
Please, just stop now, you're sounding like a clueless idiot.
My extended family also has a history of "mental illness". I think that makes me slightly more informed than you, "hearing stories about how its hard", lol...
Please, describe to me, the difference between "mental illness" and "personality". When someone is mentally ill but never needs treatment to maintain a healthy life, does that make it not an illness?
The problem with the whole medical system is that it is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I never said people don't need help for their problems. You must've misunderstood or something.
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Jaekus wrote:
Please, just stop now, you're sounding like a clueless idiot.
I dunno if it make you more informed than jaekus on the topic, I'm sure jake is pretty informed.
He just said he works with people that have mnetal illness a couple of posts up. I think that constitutes a better understanding on the subject than you seeing a friends father every now and again...Spearhead wrote:
My extended family also has a history of "mental illness". I think that makes me slightly more informed than you, "hearing stories about how its hard", lol...
Okay man, you've said nothing but insults and simply stated you worked with mentally ill people.Jaekus wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
Please, just stop now, you're sounding like a clueless idiot.
Stop acting as if you alone are allowed to have an opinion.
I never said there is no such thing as schizophrenia, I was referring to the social stigma that labeling something as an illness (that they are often times genetically predisposed to have) inadvertently carries with it. Often unseen/ignored by people who have not experienced it personally.
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You're just back pedalling now, because you first said:
and then went on to argue that mental illness is simply a difference in personality, which is flatly incorrect and plain ignorant. To which rather than getting into a walls-of-text argument about, I just called it as it is.Spearhead wrote:
The very idea that there is such a thing called a mental illness, is in itself offensive.
>"I can assure you I was a devout fundamentalist Christian"Adams_BJ wrote:
>"was taught not to question it"
pick 1
oh my what a fucking idiot. it took him 5 months to go from a 'Christian' to an atheist? i'm surprised it didn't take him a week. it would've taken me a day if i believed in the 'facts' that he talked about
lol that he thinks every non-christian will go to hell. i'm almost positive that was done some guy looking to whore karma on reddit
"Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before you reach eighteen."rdx-fx wrote:
Common sense isn't common, and what generally passes for sense doesn't make any sense.Shahter wrote:
it's nice to see that common sense is still in use in this world.
But still, a refreshing change of pace, when one actually encounters it.
I don't know if Einstein *actually* said this but it's a great quote nonetheless.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
A real Christian doesn't question Christianity huh? At all? Not even a little crisis of faith once in a while? Hmm, judging by the Book of Job maybe not - that's harsh.HaiBai wrote:
>"I can assure you I was a devout fundamentalist Christian"Adams_BJ wrote:
>"was taught not to question it"
pick 1
oh my what a fucking idiot. it took him 5 months to go from a 'Christian' to an atheist? i'm surprised it didn't take him a week. it would've taken me a day if i believed in the 'facts' that he talked about
lol that he thinks every non-christian will go to hell. i'm almost positive that was done some guy looking to whore karma on reddit
Not the most positive message though; an unquestioning obedience to an all-seeing authority under all circumstances. Where have I heard that before?
To be honest I don't think the "Non-Christians go to Hell" is the main concern. I mean it's a troubling thing but the plot-holes can be filled in neatly enough I suppose. It wouldn't be the most concerning thing for me anyway, I go after the big dog himself. See as groovy as Jesus was about healing the sick and giving to the poor, (two things that seem to have been lost in translation in modern society,) and as pleasantly different as this was to the wrathful God in the Old Testament that was so keen on blood and death it should be noted that before Jesus came along the dead were free from punishment. God may smite you in life but once you were dead that was it. Not until Jesus came along did the concept of eternal damnation come into being. That's his one flaw, one of the few thing that paints Jesus in a less-than-glowing light. And lets be clear here, eternal damnation isn't just reserved for the most evil people. In fact the worst thing, (as is repeatedly said,) is to question God. Commit genocide in the name of God sure, but questioning Him lands you in eternal suffering and torment? That's eternal we're talking about here, that's a pretty excessive punishment. And for doing nothing worse than what I'm doing now. Nothing about that seems moral or just or ethical or even logical to me.
That's just one thing but in brief there is more enough in religion itself that could make anyone question belief and even the reason for belief, (is this religion true and/or is there any reason for one to have faith in this religion?) If one were to look at outside sources there is even more evidence that calls things into question. And though I would never want to destroy anyone's faith and try not to indulge my more "militant atheist", (read: annoying,) side I certainly think that even I could formulate an argument that would make even the most staunch believer question their faith, even if only a little. It's not that hard really, there's a lot to work with and people don't often realise that they're not as religious as they thought they were, a little prod can be more than enough to change one's outlook.
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replace common sense with common knowledge in that quote and it'll be about right. people often confuse those two when there's actually a big difference.Spark wrote:
"Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before you reach eighteen."rdx-fx wrote:
Common sense isn't common, and what generally passes for sense doesn't make any sense.Shahter wrote:
it's nice to see that common sense is still in use in this world.
But still, a refreshing change of pace, when one actually encounters it.
I don't know if Einstein *actually* said this but it's a great quote nonetheless.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wa barakatuhu braaz
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