aerodynamic
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To my knowlegde doesnt the a3 have a fixed carrying handle with no front rails?

--nvm--

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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5255|Massachusetts, USA

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Demize confirmed the M16A3 and M16A4 will be in the game. I wonder what the difference between the two will be, and which will be the starting weapon.

I'm hoping that the M16A4 is the starting weapon. I really enjoy how faction-specific weapons shape the game. One the one hand, you'll have the USMC with accurate M16A4s that are better suited in longer range combat, and the Russians with medium range inaccurate AKs.

It won't be that way though most likely.

I wonder what the difference between the A3 and A4 will be besides being full auto vs burst. Maybe the A3 is less accurate or does less damage? How would you guys have differentiated the two, or would you have even implemented an A3 if it were up to you?
Once again, you keep talking like you have this vast wealth of knowledge on firearms. You can't just call the AK series inaccurate because there's so damn many variants. Plus you're forgetting that accuracy is also determined by the skill of the shooter. Jesus christ shifty, stop reading the bible and start reading some actual books. Or get out into life and take some courses.
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5693|Ventura, California
I never said I was a know-it-all. The AK-74M in game is just not built for accuracy like an M16A4 is.
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Trotskygrad
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AK-74's effective range is listed as 625

M16A4's effective range is listed at 550

:trollface:
Christbane
Member
+51|6454
I have a shit built chinese AK and I have no problem hitting targets with it you just have to get used to the gun.   but I read all over game forums AK's are inaccurate! it has to be true!
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6218|...

Trotskygrad wrote:

AK-74's effective range is listed as 625

M16A4's effective range is listed at 550

:trollface:
is that point or area?

surprises me tbh thats one powerful gun
inane little opines
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5693|Ventura, California
Well I've been told the design of the gun isn't built for accuracy, and the M16's is. This is also shown, again from my modest little-educated self, the iron sights on an M16 let you be waaaay more accurate than with an AK. From personal experience at 300 yards, it's a lot easier to be on target with an M16 than an AK.

Heck I donno, who's a gun expert on here?

WTH Shocking, that was a troll post.
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Trotskygrad
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lol, the AK has battle sights, the M16 has peep sights

that's because the AK was designed to be used by a poorly trained soviet conscript, not because it wasn't built for accuracy

tell me, what else would you build a gun for? inaccuracy? rate of fire?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Since most combat is now at ranges much closer than 300m, 300m performance barely matters.

The AK was designed to be effective, not necessarily super-accurate, because it really doesn't matter.
Open iron sights are much quicker to use than peep sights, and if its going to be shot in bursts from the hip its not too critical.
If you learn to use them they aren't necessarily that bad. With the right set up I can hit a rifle target at 300 yards with a 6 inch revolver and standard open iron sights.
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M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6442|Escea

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

The code and models for the M82 were in BF2. Was actually pretty easy to make a mini-mod to enable it
Yeah, I actually played with it when MOAB was filming that movie thing. Everyone else in the filming quickly realized it was the most OP thing ever.
lol, I remember that. Would blow up an F-15 in one mag or less.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Since most combat is now at ranges much closer than 300m, 300m performance barely matters.

The AK was designed to be effective, not necessarily super-accurate, because it really doesn't matter.
Open iron sights are much quicker to use than peep sights, and if its going to be shot in bursts from the hip its not too critical.
If you learn to use them they aren't necessarily that bad. With the right set up I can hit a rifle target at 300 yards with a 6 inch revolver and standard open iron sights.
Aren't peeps better for poor visibility/night than open?

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aerodynamic
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I want the garand in bf3.
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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5255|Massachusetts, USA
Do we know if motion mines will be included?
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aerodynamic
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Do we know if motion mines will be included?
i highly doubt it.
The same way i doubt they will ever put the garand and kar98 in the game....
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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5255|Massachusetts, USA

aerodynamic wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Do we know if motion mines will be included?
i highly doubt it.
The same way i doubt they will ever put the garand and kar98 in the game....
Motion mines are way too OP. So I will be quite happy if they aren't in the game.
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Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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There will be something similar, but it cannot be throw, you can only carry one at a time, enemies can disable it, and it will not detect enemies unless they are running or sprinting.
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
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Oh so just like Cock Ops then,
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5693|Ventura, California
yep

https://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1154836/FJLYw_fullsize.jpeg?91c651f8

So anyways, yeah I like the new system better.
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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5255|Massachusetts, USA

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

There will be something similar, but it cannot be throw, you can only carry one at a time, enemies can disable it, and it will not detect enemies unless they are running or sprinting.
That's better than the current motion sensor system. It's a load of tripe.
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Trotskygrad
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

There will be something similar, but it cannot be throw, you can only carry one at a time, enemies can disable it, and it will not detect enemies unless they are running or sprinting.
That's better than the current motion sensor system. It's a load of tripe.
2142s was pretty decent.

I loved how you could stick them on vehicles
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5693|Ventura, California
2142 was a perfect game, minus little bugs and engine issues.

I want a Bf2142 remake on Frostbite 2.0, the exact same freaking game but with a different engine.
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6935

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I never said I was a know-it-all. The AK-74M in game is just not built for accuracy like an M16A4 is.
Russians fixed their accuracy issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU

go to 45 seconds.

Russians using AEK 971 as standard and moving to AK 200's now. accurate as fuck.
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5693|Ventura, California
Sights still only let you be so accurate up to a certain distance. M16 peep-hole sights are built for accuracy, while, all of this just being my opinion of course, the AK's "battle sights" are not. I just don't believe you can line up sights to make as accurate shots with open sights as you can with the tiny peep-hole on M16s.

I'm not saying the gun itself isn't accurate anymore, but I'm saying the user can only do so much without better aiming equipment.
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ROGUEDD
BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.
+452|5608|Fuck this.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Sights still only let you be so accurate up to a certain distance. M16 peep-hole sights are built for accuracy, while, all of this just being my opinion of course, the AK's "battle sights" are not. I just don't believe you can line up sights to make as accurate shots with open sights as you can with the tiny peep-hole on M16s.

I'm not saying the gun itself isn't accurate anymore, but I'm saying the user can only do so much without better aiming equipment.
Shitfy have you ever even touched a Kalashnikov?
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Cybargs
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+2,285|6935

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Sights still only let you be so accurate up to a certain distance. M16 peep-hole sights are built for accuracy, while, all of this just being my opinion of course, the AK's "battle sights" are not. I just don't believe you can line up sights to make as accurate shots with open sights as you can with the tiny peep-hole on M16s.

I'm not saying the gun itself isn't accurate anymore, but I'm saying the user can only do so much without better aiming equipment.
lol irons everyone uses optics now. shut the fuck up shifty.
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5693|Ventura, California
ROGUEDD

Unless you're in the military, I've probably used more firearms than you have. I've fired an AK47, an AK74, an AK47S, an AK74U, and whatever other random weird models I've fired of 'em. I've shot XM-177E1s, XM-177E2s, M16A1s, M16A2s, M4s, etc. Those are just the two AK/M16-esque rifles I've fired. So I think I know what the hell I'm talking about.

Cybargs, I'm talking about the irons, not the optics, if you don't agree with what I said about irons, post your argument, if it's about optics, which I'm not talking about, please hush.

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