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jord wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't know why someone would play as a sniper in a game that is focused on team work. If you want to play as a lonewolf sniper play Call of Duty.

It isn't focused on teamwork. It's an fps, that's the prime reason why people buy it, to shoot people and kill people using vehicles.

Not that a sniper doesn't contribute to the team in a game where kills=ticket loss for enemy team.

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-02-08 06:59:29)

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

I think that the best thing DICE could do to mitigate the number of people going for kills would be to stop tracking the number of deaths. This was no one is so concerned about their precious k/d that they actually go out and do shit where they risk getting killed, such as playing the game. I also hope that the scoring is done like in BC2 where its easy for you to rack up shit loads of points by doing things other than killing people. In BF2, getting kills was by far the fastest ways of scoring points, so people didn't have as much incentive for completing objectives.

Macbeth wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

I think that the best thing DICE could do to mitigate the number of people going for kills would be to stop tracking the number of deaths. This was no one is so concerned about their precious k/d that they actually go out and do shit where they risk getting killed, such as playing the game. I also hope that the scoring is done like in BC2 where its easy for you to rack up shit loads of points by doing things other than killing people. In BF2, getting kills was by far the fastest ways of scoring points, so people didn't have as much incentive for completing objectives.

On the PS3 it wouldn't show the amount of kills and deaths on a scoreboard just the amount of points. That's a step in the right direction.

NeXuS wrote:

Isn't the point of video games is to have fun blow off some steam and just have a good time with friends? You guys sound like the government trying to force team play upon everyone. If i wanna sit in the back with my sniper jack off for a good 10 minutes then shoot some guy in the knee caps while my team fails at capping a flag then so be it. It's a game.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

thepilot91 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I don't know why someone would play as a sniper in a game that is focused on team work. If you want to play as a lonewolf sniper play Call of Duty.

Thats like saying , everyone should get a chance to fly the jet all the time (in bf2 ) although there is a skilled pilot on your team , for example wake , with me in the f35b on the US side = win (brag , yeah I know) as long as the whole team doesnt sit on the carrier, and yeah sound very harch but I know it for a fact that when me and my plane go down for some reason , my team start losing flags.

If you have a good sniper on your team, let him be , he is probably gonna do more good sniping then anything else , and the noobsnipers : there will always be noobs of some sort

But being a "good sniper" doesn't help your team much. You're still still sitting behind a rock or in a bush getting a few spare kills and not attempting to complete objectives. As previously said, in a TDM game this isn't a problem. However the BF games have objectives other than "kill more than you get killed" which makes "good snipers" do little.

As for "noobsnipers," sniping has never been difficult in the BF games. It's actually very easy as all the BF games have large and often very open maps, allowing snipers to have good positions and large killzones. And getting head shots isn't difficult when you have a scope and the bad guy looks as if he's only a few meters away through the scope.

jord wrote:

I'll tell you why Sniper shouldn't be removed, and I'm gonna debunk as many counters within this one post as I can because I don't have the time to debate this all night, I can get youporn on my phone now afterall...

Battlefield was so good because of one thing: versatility. Versatility in weapons, versatility in kits, versatility in vehicles and versatility in role. I played bf2 for so many hours because I spread them between the different facets of game I enjoyed most, namely Jets/Helis/Armour on Karkand and Infantry. The game wouldn't have had such longevity if not for versatility. Yes that includes Sniper, which adds versatility in firefight distances. Without it you have short range engagments and medium range engagments, which is 2 types, instead of 3. It just removes an element of the game, and that my friends is a bad thing.

I'm not anti teamwork, I played PR a shit ton, and I was part of a clan early on in bf2 so I get the enjoyment from being part of a well oiled machine steamrolling the opposition. Point is you can't force it, because a lot of people just want to pick up the game and play, usually alone. That includes me most of the time. Setting up shop in a nice vantage point and picking apart the enemy team at range and pushing yourself to pull off tricky shots is just as fun as being part of a squad spamming a few nades on a flag, running over chucking ammo and med bags at eachother and capping it. That's what gaming is about afterall, fun.

As for floppy getting angry at Snipers all the time and proclaiming they're "ruining battlefield for everyone" that's bullshit, grade A bullshit. The balance isn't so off in really any FPS that a sniper can consistantly rape you, unless you're doing everything wrong which I assume you are Floppy.

Peace Boris

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Karkand.

A cramped mess. A test of which side could out spam the other. No room to flank, no room to maneuver. Claymores and grenades kept infantry from getting lucky and running through the center while ATMs and C4 did the same to vehicles.

And if you did, by some act of God, manage to break the STALEmate at the hotel, you would soon end up in an even worse one at the bridge, where all the problems of the stalemate at the hotel were massively exacerbated.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

For the game to be enjoyable at all, the US team would need to be orders of magnitude more competent than their Middle Eastern counterparts. And if that were indeed the case then it would be a complete route which is also not fun.

Karkand was fucking terrible. And it stole thunder from Mashtuur, which was a map that actually was, you know, fun.