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2011-02-07 18:22:41

#76

FloppY_: +1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

FatherTed wrote:
i disagree with the sniper hate, in bfbc2 a good sniper in your squad who will spam his balls and mortar other snipers while basically fucking up campers as you arm mcoms is invaluable. sadly most snipers sit in a bush and aim for that OMG LEET HEADSHOT XD and dont' contribute

That's not sniper, thats recon...

Snipers are fuckers

Recons are KREDIT TO TEEM!

I say keep only marksman rifles and bury the fucking high-powered longscope snipers forever...

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2011-02-07 18:32:57

#77

Drunken_Tankdriver: Member; +81|6869

For the sniper kit hopefully bf3 adopts and M16 with or without a grenade launcher as a "Get to my honey hole" spot. Then bust out the wig splittin daddy of them all! They should have atleast 3 claymores too imo.

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2011-02-07 18:40:08

#78

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5396|Sydney

AussieReaper wrote:
Bring back claymores!

That will def stop snipers from camping.

I reckon they should give all snipers 5 clays each, and like AT mines in BC2 they should never disappear until set off.

j/k

2011-02-07 18:46:02

#79

Drunken_Tankdriver: Member; +81|6869

Jaekus wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Bring back claymores!

That will def stop snipers from camping.
I reckon they should give all snipers 5 clays each, and like AT mines in BC2 they should never disappear until set off.

j/k

I agree!

2011-02-07 19:43:00

#80

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6686

FloppY_ wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
i disagree with the sniper hate, in bfbc2 a good sniper in your squad who will spam his balls and mortar other snipers while basically fucking up campers as you arm mcoms is invaluable. sadly most snipers sit in a bush and aim for that OMG LEET HEADSHOT XD and dont' contribute
That's not sniper, thats recon...

Snipers are fuckers

Recons are KREDIT TO TEEM!

I say keep only marksman rifles and bury the fucking high-powered longscope snipers forever...

As much as it pains me to say it, Floppy is right.

In BC2 they gave the recon class good options that make it a really effective class. Unfortunately they also gave it the option to have a particular gameplay style that is useless when it's on your team and aggravating when it's on the enemy team.

2011-02-07 19:47:37

#81

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6717|so randum

yeah sorry i should have said the weapons seem to influence the play, although ive had similar experiences with decent m24 snipers in BF2 where they would literally clear the 100m infront of your squad and give overwatch. I'm not sure what gameplay mechanic could be introduced to prevent players from camping (killcams clearly don't work)

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2011-02-07 19:48:53

#82

FloppY_: +1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

FatherTed wrote:
yeah sorry i should have said the weapons seem to influence the play, although ive had similar experiences with decent m24 snipers in BF2 where they would literally clear the 100m infront of your squad and give overwatch. I'm not sure what gameplay mechanic could be introduced to prevent players from camping (killcams clearly don't work)

Nor can I... that's why I suggest removing sniper-rifles completely

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2011-02-07 19:51:31

#83

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6717|so randum

see i actually like the sniper rifle as an idea in most games - long range high burst which is good for dealing with healing classes or stuff out of sight of most other inf - but if there was some way to discourage people from sitting in a bush all round with said weapon i would ejaculate happy sperm.

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2011-02-07 19:58:33

#84

FloppY_: +1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

FatherTed wrote:
see i actually like the sniper rifle as an idea in most games - long range high burst which is good for dealing with healing classes or stuff out of sight of most other inf - but if there was some way to discourage people from sitting in a bush all round with said weapon i would ejaculate happy sperm.

Well.. in BC2 they are not really the high-burst weapon you describe... You can easily kill a sniper from range with most other weapons since all weapons have 100% accuracy on the first shot (heck I do it every game with the Thompson) The only thing the sniper rifles have in BC2 is the fact you can sit on your arse and get a decent KDR with relative safety...

I cannot think of a way to force/encourage people to not glue themselves to the farthest rock from the battlefield as long as the sniper rifle is in play...

I'm only happy they made damage range-dependant and even high-powered rifles not 1-shot-1-kill at anything but close range...

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2011-02-07 20:16:13

#85

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6686

FatherTed wrote:
see i actually like the sniper rifle as an idea in most games - long range high burst which is good for dealing with healing classes or stuff out of sight of most other inf - but if there was some way to discourage people from sitting in a bush all round with said weapon i would ejaculate happy sperm.

No, the sniper rifle is conceptually broken.

It enables you to kill enemies from a safe location, and it does not give them the ability to evade your attack. The other player would need to move through the sniper's kill zone to be able to get close enough to win, and once close enough the player is within range of other players with close range weapons whom the sniper was hiding behind.

It also rewards passive playing, meaning that if you have snipers on your team then they will be inclined to hang back and get easy kills as opposed to advancing and completing objectives.

These are large problems in every team based game with snipers. BC2 provides a particularly egregious example of the latter problem, while TF2 provides a particularly egregious example of the former problem.

2011-02-08 00:11:04

#86

iceman785: Member; +93|6890|Alaska, mother fucker.

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2011-02-08 01:35:11

#87

thepilot91: Member; +64|6453|Åland!

SHUT UP ! , sniper shall be in , otherwise it's no where near a bf game , give back specops from BF2 instead , those weapons were the shit ! and the fact that the specops class actually was able to do all the things a recon should be able to , and the silenced pistol for those awsome sneaky kills

2011-02-08 02:08:31

#88

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

There's no problem with the sniper kit, the problem is moaners trying to force teamplay.

Hey guess what, when you get 32 players together of varying age, nationality and competence on a public server they probably aren't going to work together. Join a clan or something if sniping bothers you that much, christ.

2011-02-08 02:16:49

#89

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6870

enjoy sitting on a rock all round not actually playing the game getting entirely undeserved kills

2011-02-08 02:19:18

#90

KuSTaV: noice; +947|6729|Gold Coast

Snipers are boring anyway.

noice

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2011-02-08 03:23:54

#91

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

Lucien wrote:
enjoy sitting on a rock all round not actually playing the game getting entirely undeserved kills

I don't care to argue about a facet of fps's that's been around for fucking years and is going to continue to be around for many more, despite bone complaints.

2011-02-08 03:34:48

#92

FloppY_: +1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Lucien wrote:
enjoy sitting on a rock all round not actually playing the game getting entirely undeserved kills

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2011-02-08 04:31:37

#93

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6487

Lucien wrote:
enjoy sitting on a rock all round not actually playing the game getting entirely undeserved kills

2011-02-08 04:38:39

#94

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

I do enjoy sniping, more than you enjoy complaining no doubt.

2011-02-08 05:01:11

#95

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5803

I don't know why someone would play as a sniper in a game that is focused on team work. If you want to play as a lonewolf sniper play Call of Duty.

2011-02-08 05:38:29

#96

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6686

Lucien wrote:
enjoy sitting on a rock all round not actually playing the game getting entirely undeserved kills

2011-02-08 06:37:05

#97

thepilot91: Member; +64|6453|Åland!

Macbeth wrote:
I don't know why someone would play as a sniper in a game that is focused on team work. If you want to play as a lonewolf sniper play Call of Duty.

Thats like saying , everyone should get a chance to fly the jet all the time (in bf2 ) although there is a skilled pilot on your team , for example wake , with me in the f35b on the US side = win (brag , yeah I know) as long as the whole team doesnt sit on the carrier, and yeah sound very harch but I know it for a fact that when me and my plane go down for some reason , my team start losing flags.

If you have a good sniper on your team, let him be , he is probably gonna do more good sniping then anything else , and the noobsnipers : there will always be noobs of some sort

2011-02-08 06:38:56

#98

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

Macbeth wrote:
I don't know why someone would play as a sniper in a game that is focused on team work. If you want to play as a lonewolf sniper play Call of Duty.

It isn't focused on teamwork. It's an fps, that's the prime reason why people buy it, to shoot people and kill people using vehicles.

Not that a sniper doesn't contribute to the team in a game where kills=ticket loss for enemy team.

2011-02-08 06:40:43

#99

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

In an argument where your ally is floppy you can't really win.

2011-02-08 06:48:48

#100

FloppY_: +1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

jord wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
I don't know why someone would play as a sniper in a game that is focused on team work. If you want to play as a lonewolf sniper play Call of Duty.
It isn't focused on teamwork. It's an fps, that's the prime reason why people buy it, to shoot people and kill people using vehicles.

Not that a sniper doesn't contribute to the team in a game where kills=ticket loss for enemy team.

I'm sorry... a team working together will obliterate a team of lonewolfs anyday in Battlefield..

That's what I'd call a team-focused game

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