BF2S Forums Weapons Damage Charts (including Magnum Ammo)

OmniDeath wrote:

Finray wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

Never trust the ingame weapon stats. Should have learned that from CoD series

What a valid argument

Based on my use with all 3 weapons, my claim remains the same. Even if I'm wrong about the AUG, there is no way the M16 and M416 do the same amount of damage.

Ok, to explain it I guess... The AUG, XM8, M416 and M16A2 all have the same top end damage of 16.7 damage per hit out to a range of six meters. This reflects the fact that they all fire the same NATO standard 5.56mm round. The M416, XM8 and M16A2 rifles are all 'standard' rifles and thus accurate out to a further range. They don't reach their minimum damage of 14.3 damage per hit until 64 meters (I mistakenly substituted yards for meters in the original post but it's close enough as makes little difference). The AUG on the other hand is a bullpup weapon and is therefor deemed less accurate at long range and because it has a shorter barrel, it loses muzzle velocity quicker than the other weapons of the same caliber. It has a bottom end damage of 11.2 damage but it reaches it's bottom end at 42 meters rather than 64. This leads to a steeper drop-off in damage past 6 meters.

So, the XM8, the M416 and the M16A2 all deal the same damage at the same ranges, the only thing that separates them for our purposes is their RPM which is 750, 700 and 800 respectively. Accuracy is not something I deal with as I feel it is mostly on the user to find what works best for themselves.

Omni, I honestly don't know what your deal is. Are you trying to find justification for using a weapon that you prefer or what?

Even your source link uses:


and it's own chart contradicts it.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-03-30 10:57:29)

JohnG@lt wrote:

Omni, I honestly don't know what your deal is. Are you trying to find justification for using a weapon that you prefer or what?

Even your source link uses:
http://www.joinaclan.com/wp-content/upl … eapons.png

and it's own chart contradicts it.

I don't have any "deal". If you're interrupting this as a personal attack you are mistaken, and I don't need to come to an online forum and post to justify using any weapon over another.

I'm just trying to figure out which is more accurate. No one has given any reason as to why the in game charts are not accurate other than "they're just wrong" nor has there been any explanation of where all these "more accurate" charts are getting their numbers, other than each other, or why these user made charts are more accurate than the in game ones.

Are you being intentionally thick?

JohnG@lt wrote:

Now, you can choose to ignore it all you want, that's your right.

Did I ever say that I was going to ignore any of this information or did I say I was merely trying to figure out which chart was more accurate? Oh yea, that's right...

JohnG@lt wrote:

I'm not purposely misleading anyone here, I have no ulterior motives other than wanting to share some work that I did in excel with others.

Did I say you were or even suggest that in any way? No, I'm sure you had nothing but good intentions and wanted to help the community, I was just asking about the numbers as I had seen several other sources that showed different values.

Chill out dude, all I did was ask a question about the numbers.

bennisboy wrote:

So I take it people have 100 health? Why do snipers not one shot kill close up?

They do, but only within about 10 feet or so.

SonderKommando wrote:

MG3 needs a slight buff.

Wat, that gun is rape, aim down sights, hold fire for a second, guaranteed kill, especially with magnum ammo.

JohnG@lt wrote:

[url]Shotguns (by popular demand, but mostly because I was playing with them today )

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 … guns-1.jpg

Consistent with the other charts, this is also out to a range of 20 yards. I am not 100% certain that buckshot is affected by magnum ammo so if someone can confirm this it would be great, thanks

If anyone is curious, the pump actions with slugs and magnum ammo are one shot kills to 21.6 meters.

Huh?  I was one shot killing snipers as defense on Valdez from spawn to the attackers sniper peak using the NS2000 with slugs/mag.

Sooo a buckshot pump shotty isn't a 1hk from 5 feet, but the m24 is. GG dice.

Got the damage figures for the 40mm?

The Sheriff wrote:

SonderKommando wrote:

MG3 needs a slight buff.

Wat, that gun is rape, aim down sights, hold fire for a second, guaranteed kill, especially with magnum ammo.

eh, i feel like compared to the M60 its just not worth it, but its sooo close to the mg42 i cnat help but use it

Ilocano wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

[url]Shotguns (by popular demand, but mostly because I was playing with them today )

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 … guns-1.jpg

Consistent with the other charts, this is also out to a range of 20 yards. I am not 100% certain that buckshot is affected by magnum ammo so if someone can confirm this it would be great, thanks

If anyone is curious, the pump actions with slugs and magnum ammo are one shot kills to 21.6 meters.

Huh?  I was one shot killing snipers as defense on Valdez from spawn to the attackers sniper peak using the NS2000 with slugs/mag.

Ahh, also, if you were playing hardcore mode it drops everyones health down to 50. You can one shot kill anyone anywhere on the map with a well aimed slug. This should probably be changed.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=135816

JohnG@lt wrote:

OmniDeath wrote:

Finray wrote:

What a valid argument

Based on my use with all 3 weapons, my claim remains the same. Even if I'm wrong about the AUG, there is no way the M16 and M416 do the same amount of damage.

Ok, to explain it I guess... The AUG, XM8, M416 and M16A2 all have the same top end damage of 16.7 damage per hit out to a range of six meters. This reflects the fact that they all fire the same NATO standard 5.56mm round. The M416, XM8 and M16A2 rifles are all 'standard' rifles and thus accurate out to a further range. They don't reach their minimum damage of 14.3 damage per hit until 64 meters (I mistakenly substituted yards for meters in the original post but it's close enough as makes little difference). The AUG on the other hand is a bullpup weapon and is therefor deemed less accurate at long range and because it has a shorter barrel, it loses muzzle velocity quicker than the other weapons of the same caliber. It has a bottom end damage of 11.2 damage but it reaches it's bottom end at 42 meters rather than 64. This leads to a steeper drop-off in damage past 6 meters.

So, the XM8, the M416 and the M16A2 all deal the same damage at the same ranges, the only thing that separates them for our purposes is their RPM which is 750, 700 and 800 respectively. Accuracy is not something I deal with as I feel it is mostly on the user to find what works best for themselves.

AUG has shorter barrel? Last time I checked, bullpup basically means shortening the gun by moving the magazine and barrel back to the stock. The Barrel length of the AUG is the same as the m16 in real life.

1 thing, your magnum slug shotty thing is wrong. SAIGA is two shot kill at any range really.