Miggle
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Finray wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Finray wrote:


But it WAS good on PS3, before you got the PC copy?
irrelevant.
Uh huh.
in short, there are two games on current generation consoles I have liked, Burnout Paradise and Rock Band.
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Finray
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Miggle wrote:

Finray wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:


We do overspend on our systems as PC users though. Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Show me a console that can perform as good as a pc of the same price.

We spend more on computers, but its justified because they perform better.
show me a console that can play good games.

oh wait.
PS3 can play Burnout and Rockband.
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Blade4509 wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

1. We overspend on our systems, not our games.
If you overspend then you're not doing it right, obviously. And don't forget the games companies get fuck all from sales of PCs! So they couldn't care less what you spend on them. As someone said earlier, the ONLY reason console games are more expensive generally is cos Microsoft/Sony take a royalty from each game sold. About ten bucks apparently.
We do overspend on our systems as PC users though. Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
^this

Also, PC game companies do gives a rats ass what people's computers are. Why do you think so many of them want you to send in PC configuration surveys? Why, so they know what tech level generally aim for. If they make a game 'nobody' can play (Crysis), it won't do nearly so well as one just about everyone can play (i.e., WoW, Half-Life 2).

SEREMAKER wrote:

take for example MW2 ........ if no one had pre-order this game or no one bought this game the 1st week of release it would have sent a huge ripple effect to every marketing company ie EA ....... that ppl are tired of paying high dollar for games

what will be the breaking point $ for ppl on buying games ?
Probably an upper limit of $120 for collectors and $80 for regular boxes. I remember Street Fighter II for the SNES was $79 on release. In comparison, MW2 was a good deal (if you discount the fact that MW1 is better and cheaper).
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Blade4509 wrote:

Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Build me a console which can play crysis...
unnamednewbie13
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DrunkFace wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Build me a console which can play crysis...
That still doesn't take away from the fact that it took/takes an expensive PC to play Crysis and that consoles have a far longer lifespan for new titles than PC's. It's simply a more cost-effective gaming solution, even if not my preferred one.
Miggle
FUCK UBISOFT
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Build me a console which can play crysis...
That still doesn't take away from the fact that it took/takes an expensive PC to play Crysis and that consoles have a far longer lifespan for new titles than PC's. It's simply a more cost-effective gaming solution, even if not my preferred one.
I built my computer 2 years ago for just under $1000 and it still easily maxes out pretty much anything but GTA4 at 1920x1080. I don't expect to have to upgrade it until long after the next generation of consoles comes out, although I probably will upgrade before then because I enjoy it.

It's not difficult to make a computer that will outlast consoles, it seems that the main complaint is that PCs can be upgraded, and as such everyone seems to think they have to.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

That still doesn't take away from the fact that it took/takes an expensive PC to play Crysis and that consoles have a far longer lifespan for new titles than PC's. It's simply a more cost-effective gaming solution, even if not my preferred one.
As I said one page back, you only need an expensive PC to play Crysis maxed out. To play it on settings equivalent to what consoles will be playing it at when crysis 2 comes out, you dont need a particularly beefy computer.

Computers have the same longevity, but only if youre willing to have the same mediocre graphics as consoles get as they age. To play the latest and greatest at the maximum settings of course youll have to upgrade
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Wallpaper wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

That still doesn't take away from the fact that it took/takes an expensive PC to play Crysis and that consoles have a far longer lifespan for new titles than PC's. It's simply a more cost-effective gaming solution, even if not my preferred one.
As I said one page back, you only need an expensive PC to play Crysis maxed out. To play it on settings equivalent to what consoles will be playing it at when crysis 2 comes out, you dont need a particularly beefy computer.

Computers have the same longevity, but only if youre willing to have the same mediocre graphics as consoles get as they age. To play the latest and greatest at the maximum settings of course youll have to upgrade
But even then there is a time, at which your PC can play games in better optics than same-gen consoles and only after, say half-a-year, a year or so you´ll have to bog down to mediocre graphics.
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Blade4509
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Or you could just never settle for mediocre because being better than consoles is cool.
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Axatar
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And you can do many, many more things, but that's no the thread's subject right?

Here, PC Games are at 60€=$87 and console games can rise up to 70€=$101, be happy that your games are only $60.

Last edited by Axatar (2010-01-18 11:23:50)

ruisleipa
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Axatar wrote:

Here, PC Games are at 60€=$87 and console games can rise up to 70€=$101, be happy that your games are only $60.
www.play.com - seriously!
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Finray wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:


If you overspend then you're not doing it right, obviously. And don't forget the games companies get fuck all from sales of PCs! So they couldn't care less what you spend on them. As someone said earlier, the ONLY reason console games are more expensive generally is cos Microsoft/Sony take a royalty from each game sold. About ten bucks apparently.
We do overspend on our systems as PC users though. Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Show me a console that can perform as good as a pc of the same price.

We spend more on computers, but its justified because they perform better.
Uh - any of them.

Consoles perform more efficiently for the price you pay. Can you show me a £250 PC that can play GTA4 in 1080p (bearing in mind that about £70 of that will be OS cost, the consoles come with an OS that allows you to play the games already)?
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Bertster7 wrote:

Finray wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

We do overspend on our systems as PC users though. Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Show me a console that can perform as good as a pc of the same price.

We spend more on computers, but its justified because they perform better.
Uh - any of them.

Consoles perform more efficiently for the price you pay. Can you show me a £250 PC that can play GTA4 in 1080p (bearing in mind that about £70 of that will be OS cost, the consoles come with an OS that allows you to play the games already)?
You pay for OS?
Sisco
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Ilocano wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Finray wrote:

Show me a console that can perform as good as a pc of the same price.

We spend more on computers, but its justified because they perform better.
Uh - any of them.

Consoles perform more efficiently for the price you pay. Can you show me a £250 PC that can play GTA4 in 1080p (bearing in mind that about £70 of that will be OS cost, the consoles come with an OS that allows you to play the games already)?
You pay for OS?
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DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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Bertster7 wrote:

Finray wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

We do overspend on our systems as PC users though. Build me a computer that can play crysis for 300 bucks.
Show me a console that can perform as good as a pc of the same price.

We spend more on computers, but its justified because they perform better.
Uh - any of them.

Consoles perform more efficiently for the price you pay. Can you show me a 250 PC that can play GTA4 in 1080p (bearing in mind that about £70 of that will be OS cost, the consoles come with an OS that allows you to play the games already)?
Sorry went a little over budget...


Edit: Or did I, just noticed you said £... £250 = US$408
Fuck, still got $125 spare to buy a stupid operating system and GTA4.

But then so would an Xbox with a HD.

And I got a free game, a DVD burner and a much bigger HD.

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gameaddict
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Personally i never had a problem with the prices of games, games normally here (Netherlands) cost around the 50-60 euros, but i just buy my games from sites like game.co.uk or as somebody else said play.com ftw. Just bought battlefield bad company 2 limited edition for £25,- and mass effect 2 collectors edition for £40,- from game.co.uk.

We decide the prices not them, if you keep buying the 60-80 euros games (example; some games on steam have some ridiculous high prices) of course they will not lower the prices.
Sydney
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gameaddict wrote:

Personally i never had a problem with the prices of games, games normally here (Netherlands) cost around the 50-60 euros, but i just buy my games from sites like game.co.uk or as somebody else said play.com ftw. Just bought battlefield bad company 2 limited edition for £25,- and mass effect 2 collectors edition for £40,- from game.co.uk.

We decide the prices not them, if you keep buying the 60-80 euros games (example; some games on steam have some ridiculous high prices) of course they will not lower the prices.
Holy shit, I think I'll do that too, 3-5 days shipping that only costs 2.5 quid

Well, I'll have to pay VAT, but it will probably still be cheaper than buying it here.

edit: Wait, so the only thing limited edition has is you get the unlocks before the others? There's nothing the LE has that the normal version does not? Then what's the point? You're gonna get the first 6 unlocks, like the first day of gaming.

Last edited by Sydney (2010-01-19 01:33:57)

gameaddict
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Sydney wrote:

gameaddict wrote:

Personally i never had a problem with the prices of games, games normally here (Netherlands) cost around the 50-60 euros, but i just buy my games from sites like game.co.uk or as somebody else said play.com ftw. Just bought battlefield bad company 2 limited edition for £25,- and mass effect 2 collectors edition for £40,- from game.co.uk.

We decide the prices not them, if you keep buying the 60-80 euros games (example; some games on steam have some ridiculous high prices) of course they will not lower the prices.
Holy shit, I think I'll do that too, 3-5 days shipping that only costs 2.5 quid

Well, I'll have to pay VAT, but it will probably still be cheaper than buying it here.

edit: Wait, so the only thing limited edition has is you get the unlocks before the others? There's nothing the LE has that the normal version does not? Then what's the point? You're gonna get the first 6 unlocks, like the first day of gaming.
Yeah, but the limited edition doesn't cost more then the normal edition, so it's more the point of 'why not'.
Sydney
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Good point.

Does game.co.uk give early access to PC beta if I pre-order?
gameaddict
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Sydney wrote:

Good point.

Does game.co.uk give early access to PC beta if I pre-order?
There won't be a PC beta, so far i know the beta is PS3 exclusive.
Sydney
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gameaddict wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Good point.

Does game.co.uk give early access to PC beta if I pre-order?
There won't be a PC beta, so far i know the beta is PS3 exclusive.
PC beta has been announced, will start late january, but if you preorder from some "participating retailers" you get in the beta 1 week earlier than the rest.
gameaddict
Member
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Sydney wrote:

gameaddict wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Good point.

Does game.co.uk give early access to PC beta if I pre-order?
There won't be a PC beta, so far i know the beta is PS3 exclusive.
PC beta has been announced, will start late january, but if you preorder from some "participating retailers" you get in the beta 1 week earlier than the rest.
Ah ok, didn't know that, but seeing the game itself is out in a month or so, i can wait (deff while playing mass effect 2 ).
Sisco
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Sydney wrote:

gameaddict wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Good point.

Does game.co.uk give early access to PC beta if I pre-order?
There won't be a PC beta, so far i know the beta is PS3 exclusive.
PC beta has been announced, will start late january, but if you preorder from some "participating retailers" you get in the beta 1 week earlier than the rest.
play.com participates
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gameaddict
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Sisco10 wrote:

Sydney wrote:

gameaddict wrote:


There won't be a PC beta, so far i know the beta is PS3 exclusive.
PC beta has been announced, will start late january, but if you preorder from some "participating retailers" you get in the beta 1 week earlier than the rest.
play.com participates
Yeah, just checked, but 1: it's 10 euros more and just for the normal edition and 2: you get the beta code 2 days earlier then the normal participants, not really worth it for me seeing it's only 2 days.
Sisco
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gameaddict wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Sydney wrote:

PC beta has been announced, will start late january, but if you preorder from some "participating retailers" you get in the beta 1 week earlier than the rest.
play.com participates
Yeah, just checked, but 1: it's 10 euros more and just for the normal edition and 2: you get the beta code 2 days earlier then the normal participants, not really worth it for me seeing it's only 2 days.
No, you get it 2 days prior to the Beta. It´s still a closed beta, so it doesn´t matter if you get in in 2 days from now on or 2 days before it starts

Anyways, game.co.uk makes me pay shipping, which adds 3,5€ to the price, so its less than 7€ cheaper and there is no info on Beta access.

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