Roc18
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I just hate that he looks like an emo faggot lol. His music isn't bad but it's overrated.
RTHKI
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+1,741|6952|Oxferd Ohire
it is bad
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Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6715|so randum
this is probably really bad music or something? but idk i like it

http://soundcloud.com/hazar/

he did the music behind the new eve trailer, hence why i'm listening :3
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5758|Toronto
Do you still play EVE, teds?

Seems like you play just about everything
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6715|so randum
no, although my accs are only on ice until i get the urge to fly internet spaceships again.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
ted that stuff sounds like it's produced by someone with about 6 month's experience using a MIDI keyboard and some free software.

it's unimaginative as hell, poorly produced, the songs are repetitive (more like sketches than actual fully fleshed-out songs).

i know iceland is a few hours behind in terms of time-zone but this shit is literally years behind in terms of music. 2009-era 'dubstep' at best. the sort of stuff that is now being used on chewing gum adverts in america because the fratboys love it so much because that bass is just so MACHO and COOL.

my honest $0.02. even if that tacky overplayed sound is your thing, there are 1,000 other bedroom producers that do it better than this kid. not to mention the actual producers that release on proper labels that far outshine the derivative youtube-generation bedroom crap.
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Roc18
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I actually don't like dubstep, that deadmau5 motherfucker made it mainstream. And those white girls who listen to lil wayne like it so thats when I know a genre isn't worth it.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,741|6952|Oxferd Ohire
just like rap
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
i'd say caspa and rusko's fabriclive was the moment dubstep entered mainstream consciousness... and big first commercial success was magnetic man / katy b sorta stuff, which was still at least rinse.fm based and coming out of south london (i.e. dubstep's home). after that it went to the states and deadmau5 / skrillex picked up on it. but this is why us uk'ers/euros are so sick of the american dubstep fad: that fact you guys are all loving literally was being played in clubs here in 2008/2009.

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DUnlimited
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+1,160|6679|cuntshitlake

plus it never was good, just repetitive and unimaginative. i've listened to all kinds of terrible music but never saw the appeal in 'brostep'. it doesn't sound good and it isn't good for dancing/clubs. no idea how it reached such popularity.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
i'd say 3-4 years ago at FWD>> and FabricLIVE dubstep was great. even the more aggressive stuff, because it wasn't overdone... most of it was deep, meditative, heavy bass. but it was still definitely very loud and still very intimidating and almost kinda anti-social. it was totally new and totally fresh for dance music and clubs, which had been full of going-nowhere d&b, jungle and minimal techno for a long time. dubstep shook it all up and gave something totally refreshing, with a new swagger. early days dubstep has to be heard in a club to be understood. the problem with dubstep being 'cool' now in today's digital-online world is that most try-hard bandwagon hoppers are listening to dubstep on laptop speakers, or their sennheiser headphones. that's completely missing the point. dubstep was - and still is - good for its original purpose. just one tiny facet and one tiny 'type' of sound (i.e. aggressive lowend bass, or saw-wave oscillator stuff) has been blown up and ran by the major labels and mainstream media circus.

plus, you have to remember that in being hyper-cool and ultra-elite and too-good for 'shitty dubstep', and thinking you are something above it with your 'uk bass' or (the obnoxiously named) 'post-dubstep' or even by involving yourself in the new-vogue for house or uk funky or garage or any other uk-based genre.... that the people you listen to, instead, were all at FWD>> dancing and thinking 3-4 years ago. it all comes from the same very small root. i'd say anyone interested in current dance music should get down to plastic people or fabric sometime, to better understand it. or even the boiler room, if that's your thing.
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Finray
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+2,629|6004|Catherine Black
What's wrong with Sennheiser headphones, prick
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Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5058|Amsterdam
They can be good or complete shit.

Last edited by Kampframmer (2011-12-02 02:11:39)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
what's wrong with them is that they don't make up for the fact that you're IN YOUR BEDROOM, ALONE, IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER

and then you get internet-era know-it-alls like DU saying "dubstep was never good in a club" when they've never experienced music outside of a pair of sennheiser cans, let alone in a london club when it was new and exciting and relevant.
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DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6679|cuntshitlake

Uzique wrote:

and then you get internet-era know-it-alls like DU saying "dubstep was never good in a club" when they've never experienced music outside of a pair of sennheiser cans, let alone in a london club when it was new and exciting and relevant.
hurr durr I'm commenting on the shit they have played in clubs in finland for the last 2 years, that is what i can relate to. Never said anything about london or the roots of said music, as if the likes of rusko or nero or bare noize or mt eden ever were "new and exciting and relevant" to the genre anyways.

I go out quite a lot, actually, but it's extremely hard to find a bar or club playing anything better than recycled UKFDubstep playlists from 2008 in here.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
rusko was very relevant in the early dubstep circles, actually. so was caspa. that fabric live mix was pretty seminal. it was never on the level of nero or mt. eden, which came much, much afterwards. the problem with rusko is that he found major success with that one sound and has just toured the world doing that same thing for like 4 years. caspa is still actually pretty respected... he cut his teeth at the early FWD's as a regular. and it sucks that you can't even hear any 'good' dubstep in clubs over there - it's like the rest of the world skipped the good phase and jumped on board late when it was just a sugar-coated skrillex type thing.

dubstep's early roots in deep, meditative dubplates was actually really, really good. most of the songs you could only hear if you went to see 'x' dj, cause it was cut to about 20 copies, at most. all white-label and heavy dubs. all vinyl only. long sets in dark clubs with walls of speakers, crowds of people all swaying with their eyes closed. back before it became this huge MUST BE AS HARD AS POSSIBLE AAAH shit. even in 2009 you could walk around not-so-nice parts of south london and walk into normal mid-sized clubs and see people like plastician or kromestar dj'ing. and stumbling into FWD without even knowing what is was on my friends 18th birthday out in london is still one of my top clubbing moments, ever.

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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
i think the major difference was that the old stuff had atmosphere, was actually genuinely dark, had a sort of mystique about it... and, most importantly, it was restrained. you could go and listen to a dubstep set for 3 hours and it would only really get chaotic and crazy for major about 20-25 minutes, at its peak. it always had a soul and a bounce to it. nowadays people have just gone straight for that 20-minute crazy stuff and have exaggerated it beyond any taste, so it lacks the rhythmical pacing and the key restraint that the old stuff had. before it was all about the tiniest, most subtle shifts in the bass frequency, the most incremental pitch/key changes... whereas now the kids are too impatient for that and just want skrillex's brand of mid-range WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMP for 3 hours straight. that non-stop full-on shit must frazzle your brain. no art to it at all.
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aimless
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Uzique wrote:

... and, most importantly, it was restrained.
Couldn't agree more. I've stopping going to the weeklys here in my state because of this. They atmosphere went from cool, bassy, danceable music to agressive 110% madness for the entire night. Dubstep became somewhat of a type of "metal" and it's not the sound I fell in love with. Not only that but most of it is built the same and sounds the same. It's always build, drop, repeat, build, drop, repeat for the entire night. No one focuses on atmospherics, dynamics, minimalism, swing, structure or anything else for that matter.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6686
thank god shit is still moving forward here in london/bristol and trickling down to other nearby uk cities. sounds like the rest of the world is 6 months late and then always gets the scrappy leftovers.
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Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5058|Amsterdam

Uzique wrote:

thank god shit is still moving forward here in london/bristol and trickling down to other nearby uk cities. sounds like the rest of the world is 6 months late and then always gets the scrappy leftovers.
6 months?

More like 6 years if you go to any major venue
Pochsy
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Friend showed me this steaming pile today. Just. NO.
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HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
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Pochsy wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOOF3zbFftA

Friend showed me this steaming pile today. Just. NO.
what's your reasoning?
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,741|6952|Oxferd Ohire
it pains the ears
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5758|Toronto

HaiBai wrote:

Pochsy wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOOF3zbFftA

Friend showed me this steaming pile today. Just. NO.
what's your reasoning?
It sounds like my mother's 10 year old scanner mixed with an old dial-up tone.
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