Few questions about Multiplayer.

2009-11-12 10:22:04

#1

{TL}SHARPSHOOTER: Vacuum Sealed for Freshness; +26|6962|The Island of Carls Jr.

I've been going through some forums/news/articles about this game and it seems clear about how it was a put-down. I'm thinking of getting it months from now when it gets knocked down a few bucks but I have some questions that haven't really been clearly answered. This is all for the PC version by the way.

Is it true that IW.net won't let you choose your maps?
What are the limitations of HC mode? I heard it only unlocks at lvl19 and you can only play TDM and SnD.
How much lag is in this messy-sounding IW.net?
How often can you really get a 9v9 game?

Thanks guys.

2009-11-12 11:09:35

#2

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6686

From what I've read:

-You need to be level 19 to be able to play hardcore and it is only available on a few modes (TDM and SD are among those)

-People who modified their game for a more precise ping displays (10 bars with 20 ms difference between bars) have noted that the average ping is between 120 and 200. That can be very laggy, and as IWNet throws you in random games you have no way to tell what your ping would be like until you're already in, and you might have to try again several times before you can get a lag free game.

-9v9 only on certain modes. TDM allows a max of 6v6. The game also requires >50% of the available slots to be "ready" to start a match, so a 9v9 match won't start until 10 people have joined and hit the "ready" button.

I never heard that IWNet picks a random map, but it wouldn't seem unlikely.

2009-11-12 13:50:32

#3

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

{TL}SHARPSHOOTER wrote:
I've been going through some forums/news/articles about this game and it seems clear about how it was a put-down. I'm thinking of getting it months from now when it gets knocked down a few bucks but I have some questions that haven't really been clearly answered. This is all for the PC version by the way.

Is it true that IW.net won't let you choose your maps?

Yes. The freedom you have is restricted to skipping a map if it comes up.

What are the limitations of HC mode? I heard it only unlocks at lvl19 and you can only play TDM and SnD.

That's pretty much it. But HC in this game is silly anyway.

How much lag is in this messy-sounding IW.net?

If you get a good host, none.

If you get a bad host, less than you might expect and even less if you tweak your settings. Still some lag though, and no patch on dedicated servers.

How often can you really get a 9v9 game?

Thanks guys.

If you play Ground War, almost guaranteed to get a 9v9 server. IWNet is pretty good (and quick) and getting full games up.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 13:52:09

#4

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

what if you don't want 9v9?

2009-11-12 14:04:52

#5

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

Miggle wrote:
what if you don't want 9v9?

then don't click ground war?

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 14:07:04

#6

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Spark wrote:
Miggle wrote:
what if you don't want 9v9?
then don't click ground war?

are there any playlists that do 3v3 max?

2009-11-12 14:07:41

#7

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

Miggle wrote:
Spark wrote:
Miggle wrote:
what if you don't want 9v9?
then don't click ground war?
are there any playlists that do 3v3 max?

3v3? don't think so.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 14:08:04

#8

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Spark wrote:
Miggle wrote:
Spark wrote:

then don't click ground war?
are there any playlists that do 3v3 max?
3v3? don't think so.

how low do they go?

2009-11-12 14:12:30

#9

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

Miggle wrote:
Spark wrote:
Miggle wrote:

are there any playlists that do 3v3 max?
3v3? don't think so.
how low do they go?

3v3-6v6 on basic TDM, SnD, CTF etc. That actually seems the best size (12 players) given the size of the maps and the style of gameplay.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 14:38:01

#10

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6604

Whats the point of Prestige? Does it give more class spaces?

2009-11-12 14:45:20

#11

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

gives you something to do? i dunno.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 14:49:20

#12

{TL}SHARPSHOOTER: Vacuum Sealed for Freshness; +26|6962|The Island of Carls Jr.

Jesus H. Christ, what have they done with Modern Warfare? I can kind of understand capping HC in a minimum of lvl19 guys, maybe it's to prevent less experienced guys into running straight into serious dying streaks. It's the fucking 'can't-choose'your-map' bullshit the I can't understand, there's absolutely no point in taking that away!.

And I hope to God Doctor Strangelove is wrong about 6v6 TDM.

What about deathmatch, is there a HC mode for it?

2009-11-12 15:14:06

#13

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6902|United States of America

Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.

2009-11-12 15:18:38

#14

Ioan92: Member; +337|5940

DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.

Anything more than 20 players is a fucking grenade clusterfuck anyways.

2009-11-12 15:19:22

#15

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Ioan92 wrote:
DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.
Anything more than 20 players is a fucking grenade clusterfuck anyways.

anything more than 6.

2009-11-12 15:22:08

#16

Ioan92: Member; +337|5940

Miggle wrote:
Ioan92 wrote:
DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.
Anything more than 20 players is a fucking grenade clusterfuck anyways.
anything more than 6.

Actually fuck it, you're right.

I never play on servers with more than 10 players tbh.

2009-11-12 15:25:29

#17

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6902|United States of America

Miggle, we get it...you don't like it...go back to CoD2 or something

In my experience, 20-28 is the ideal number of players and certainly not a grenade clusterfuck, although that depends on the people you play with and not the game itself. Hell, DF:BHD used to run 50 player servers, which was awesome (although the maps were infinite and not walled in like CoD has always been)

2009-11-12 15:25:42

#18

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.

Actually given how this game works that's very reasonable.

And they didn't want to make killstreaks stupid powreful again (except for the pavelow)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 15:27:51

#19

Ilocano: buuuurrrrrrppppp.......; +341|6884

DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.

Nah. There are quite a few camping spots that allow for easy kill streaks. Easy far off spots due too lack of recoil. And no more stupid enemy spawning behind you shit. Just have a team mate cover your ass from an enterprising enemy who likes to flank.

2009-11-12 15:28:32

#20

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6892|Canberra, AUS

Ilocano wrote:
DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.
Nah. There are quite a few camping spots that allow for easy kill streaks. Easy far off spots due too lack of recoil. And no more stupid enemy spawning behind you shit. Just have a team mate cover your ass from an enterprising enemy who likes to flank.

There's a lot of flanking.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-11-12 15:28:35

#21

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

DesertFox- wrote:
Miggle, we get it...you don't like it...go back to CoD2 or something

In my experience, 20-28 is the ideal number of players and certainly not a grenade clusterfuck, although that depends on the people you play with and not the game itself. Hell, DF:BHD used to run 50 player servers, which was awesome (although the maps were infinite and not walled in like CoD has always been)

I honestly have found that I prefer playing with under 6 players. Once the game gets much bigger it stops being fun. Delta Force is a completely different game, I've enjoyed 64 players in several games, but CoD4 wasn't good with more than 6.

Sorry my opinions aren't good enough for you fox.

2009-11-12 15:29:54

#22

Blade4509: Wrench turnin' fool; +202|5726|America

Miggle wrote:
Sorry my opinions aren't good enough for you fox.

Your opinions aren't good enough for anyone here. Go away.

"Raise the flag high! Let the degenerates know who comes to claim their lives this day!"

2009-11-12 15:30:48

#23

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Blade4509 wrote:
Miggle wrote:
Sorry my opinions aren't good enough for you fox.
Your opinions aren't good enough for anyone here. Go away.

I'm honored.

2009-11-12 15:31:16

#24

Ioan92: Member; +337|5940

120 player shipment ffa no score limit time limit 60 minutes

2009-11-12 15:37:11

#25

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6902|United States of America

Ilocano wrote:
DesertFox- wrote:
Whoa, christ. I didn't know they changed all that MP up. 18 players is just under the minimum amount I need to consider joining a server. That's barely enough to even get one of those kill streaks unless the enemy is totally retarded. I didn't really care about the ping thing, but that's a shitty limit on players.
Nah. There are quite a few camping spots that allow for easy kill streaks. Easy far off spots due too lack of recoil. And no more stupid enemy spawning behind you shit. Just have a team mate cover your ass from an enterprising enemy who likes to flank.

Bah, camping is boring as shit. I can see why you would resort to backing into a corner if you suck, and that's the only way to get a kill, but I'm a rather decent FPS-er. It's all about proactive soldiering to find and eliminate the enemy, improving your position as you go. In 4, usually someone would get 1 203 round or kill me once while camping, but I'd respawn and hit them right back. It makes your job far easier when you know where the enemy is.

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