Feel free to " Take the Helm " lol duche bag.spacepelle wrote:
Striking back at what? a regime that the U.S wanted to remove for a long time or did you really get those guys who planned it? Usama Bin Laden is still free i believe....GOOD JOB AMERICA!!!Psycho wrote:
However, when extremists attack the United States and kill about 3,000 of our citizens we are condemned by most of the free world for striking back.
I had the pleasure of playing with you, leaving people calling for pick ups Straded while you drive of alone.Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
Just for the fun of itSh1fty2k5 wrote:
I saw a picture on the Telly showing some arabs torching Switzerlands flag, obviously, the stupid mother fuckers thought that it was denmarks flag. Im gonna burn a few Qu'rans and put it on break.com
http://www.swm.se/download.php?id=13694
You are the reason people TK.
It's ridiculous how much fuss people can make of this incident... unbelievable.
So, the only source I have on this is the radio (coming from an ABC affiliate station reporting from the AP wire), but there is evidently more to these cartoons than what Jyllands-Posten printed. The outrage is very probably being fanned by renegade Imams who have also been showing cartoons of Mohammed being a pedophile and participating in other vulgar acts. They've been dragging the pictures around the Middle East, making sure they've been shown everywhere.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Stor … 91,00.html <-- Full story here, which seems to be full of a lot more details than what the majority of the American media is showing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Stor … 91,00.html <-- Full story here, which seems to be full of a lot more details than what the majority of the American media is showing.
...At this point a group of ultra-conservative Danish imams decided to take matters into their own hands, setting off on an ambitious tour of Saudi Arabia and Egypt with a dossier containing the inflammatory cartoons.
According to Jyllands-Posten, the imams from the organisation Islamisk Trossamfund took three other mysteriously unsourced drawings as well, showing Muhammad with the face of a pig; a dog sodomising a praying Muslim; and Muhammad as a paedophile. “This was pure disinformation. We never published them,” Lund complained. But the campaign worked. Outwardly the row appeared to be calming down. But in Muslim cyber-chatrooms, on blogs, and across the internet, outrage was building fast....
I agree.. from what I've learned so far, Islam is about brotherhood.DazBurt wrote:
These "people" are not Muslims. They have absolutely no Fucking right to say that they follow the Islamic Faith, they are a bunch of no hopers trying to pin the blame for their problems on someone or something else.
If you were to meet a true Muslim, you would be greeted like a brother and would be treated respectfully, (as the Qu'ran teaches them to)
At this point I'm not so sure you have the entire picture. And that statement is from one group within Islam. you will find groups that cling to the segregation of born muslims, and converted muslims, saying that born muslims are the superiorDazBurt wrote:
Islam is the most peaceful monothesium religion in the world, even from the times of the Prophets. Muslims believe, every person is born into Islam, yet they convert at their own will and come back to Islam, thats why a convert is more blessed than a born Muslim cos they come to Islam out of purity, love and free will
And herein lies the problem of today's Islam. Yes you will find verses like that in the Qu'ran. But remember that the Qu'ran isn't the only rule to live by. you've got text upon text depicting what the Prophet did in any given situation. And I guarantee you that someone will "dechiper" that verse to mean something like "If anyone harms others (muslims), God will harm him...." etc.DazBurt wrote:
And heres a quote from the Hadith (Actual sayins of Mohammed (SAW)),
"If anyone harms (others), God will harm him, and if anyone shows hostility to others, God will show hostility to him." Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 1625
And what do the so-called pacifist "true" muslims do??? nothing! they do nothing to quell the 1% of muslims who burn and attack others. That's the real shame. passive consent...DazBurt wrote:
many media organisations tarnish the entire religion by always mentionin that these extremists or terrorists are Muslim. So they call themselves Muslim, but their intentions and beliefs are not those of Islam, they maybe Muslim by faith but what they do is not in the name of Islam as Islam does not teach those hateful thangs, its men that teach those thangs, and as many people dont realise, there is a lot of young men and women who are easily led and brainwashed by small groups that prey on college students and stand outside Mosques to exploit the feelins of anger amoungst Muslims.
I could argue that you yourself are trying to sound tough and hard. That is not the issue however. People in here are venting frustration over this particular situation. and if you had locked and deleted this thread you'd probably not have many "serious" people wishing to visit and discuss in your forums. IMO...DazBurt wrote:
By the way, I am not Muslim, and if I was an Admin, I would Lock or Delete this thread because although there are some Valid Points above me, There are a few people replying that are simply trying to sound Big and Hard
I am a member of Her majesties finest and I will have to travel around the world and tidy up all this ShitFriluftshund wrote:
I agree.. from what I've learned so far, Islam is about brotherhood.DazBurt wrote:
These "people" are not Muslims. They have absolutely no Fucking right to say that they follow the Islamic Faith, they are a bunch of no hopers trying to pin the blame for their problems on someone or something else.
If you were to meet a true Muslim, you would be greeted like a brother and would be treated respectfully, (as the Qu'ran teaches them to)At this point I'm not so sure you have the entire picture. And that statement is from one group within Islam. you will find groups that cling to the segregation of born muslims, and converted muslims, saying that born muslims are the superiorDazBurt wrote:
Islam is the most peaceful monothesium religion in the world, even from the times of the Prophets. Muslims believe, every person is born into Islam, yet they convert at their own will and come back to Islam, thats why a convert is more blessed than a born Muslim cos they come to Islam out of purity, love and free willAnd herein lies the problem of today's Islam. Yes you will find verses like that in the Qu'ran. But remember that the Qu'ran isn't the only rule to live by. you've got text upon text depicting what the Prophet did in any given situation. And I guarantee you that someone will "dechiper" that verse to mean something like "If anyone harms others (muslims), God will harm him...." etc.DazBurt wrote:
And heres a quote from the Hadith (Actual sayins of Mohammed (SAW)),
"If anyone harms (others), God will harm him, and if anyone shows hostility to others, God will show hostility to him." Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 1625And what do the so-called pacifist "true" muslims do??? nothing! they do nothing to quell the 1% of muslims who burn and attack others. That's the real shame. passive consent...DazBurt wrote:
many media organisations tarnish the entire religion by always mentionin that these extremists or terrorists are Muslim. So they call themselves Muslim, but their intentions and beliefs are not those of Islam, they maybe Muslim by faith but what they do is not in the name of Islam as Islam does not teach those hateful thangs, its men that teach those thangs, and as many people dont realise, there is a lot of young men and women who are easily led and brainwashed by small groups that prey on college students and stand outside Mosques to exploit the feelins of anger amoungst Muslims.I could argue that you yourself are trying to sound tough and hard. That is not the issue however. People in here are venting frustration over this particular situation. and if you had locked and deleted this thread you'd probably not have many "serious" people wishing to visit and discuss in your forums. IMO...DazBurt wrote:
By the way, I am not Muslim, and if I was an Admin, I would Lock or Delete this thread because although there are some Valid Points above me, There are a few people replying that are simply trying to sound Big and Hard
as Marconius has indicated, this whole thing is a carefully constructed campaign by some muslim extremists. When those pictures were first published in september of 2005, no one really cared a lot about it. It was a regional affair at best.
Those behind the campaign knew what was going to happen, they most likely wanted it to happen.
Those behind the campaign knew what was going to happen, they most likely wanted it to happen.
That could also be that they don't have television/radio/food/water/electricity.......B.Schuss wrote:
as Marconius has indicated, this whole thing is a carefully constructed campaign by some muslim extremists. When those pictures were first published in september of 2005, no one really cared a lot about it. It was a regional affair at best.
Those behind the campaign knew what was going to happen, they most likely wanted it to happen.
And still they have the energy to go out and burn buildings and attack people. Shitheads the lot of them!
Oh... and isn't it strange how they always seem to have enough rounds in their AK's to keep firing into the sky? You could swear there was a support running about somewhere...
....Shoot him first, then the rest...
No, identify and isolate the medics first!Friluftshund wrote:
That could also be that they don't have television/radio/food/water/electricity.......B.Schuss wrote:
as Marconius has indicated, this whole thing is a carefully constructed campaign by some muslim extremists. When those pictures were first published in september of 2005, no one really cared a lot about it. It was a regional affair at best.
Those behind the campaign knew what was going to happen, they most likely wanted it to happen.
And still they have the energy to go out and burn buildings and attack people. Shitheads the lot of them!
Oh... and isn't it strange how they always seem to have enough rounds in their AK's to keep firing into the sky? You could swear there was a support running about somewhere...
....Shoot him first, then the rest...
im getting pretty sick and tired of the muslims crying havoc everytime something rubs them the wrong way...its like enduring the tamper tantrum of a spoiled brat!!
its funny that they burn things to the ground in the name of justice , to avenge the profanity perpetrated on muhammed... but....
it is also said that profanity is perpetrated when you use violence to propagate the word of allah, according to the non-violent wing of the muslims. yet...every time a muslim bombs something or kills people, no muslims cry for justice
far from being a racist....it is interesting to see how muslims offended by darwings act accordingly to what has been drawn.
just my 2 cents for the day
its funny that they burn things to the ground in the name of justice , to avenge the profanity perpetrated on muhammed... but....
it is also said that profanity is perpetrated when you use violence to propagate the word of allah, according to the non-violent wing of the muslims. yet...every time a muslim bombs something or kills people, no muslims cry for justice
far from being a racist....it is interesting to see how muslims offended by darwings act accordingly to what has been drawn.
just my 2 cents for the day