Sisco
grandmaster league revivalist
+493|6561

JimSwanson wrote:

I love this game and how they always keep improving it. I wish more games were like it.
Like L4D?
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legionair
back to i-life
+336|6840|EU

Kptk92 wrote:

legionair wrote:

Kptk92 wrote:

Cool now make it that the Dead Ringer doesn't drain it's cloak back to the way it was or make it you can recharge the cloak with ammo
recharging it with ammo would be too easy to use imo
Well normal cloak can recharge with ammo and it has a longer time use than Dead Ringer so why not tbh
believe me, I would want that too, but on the other hand - good spies with dead ringer are already pain in the ass , why make them even harder to kill?

edit: though it could recharge faster

Last edited by legionair (2009-06-09 07:01:48)

NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

legionair wrote:

Kptk92 wrote:

legionair wrote:

recharging it with ammo would be too easy to use imo
Well normal cloak can recharge with ammo and it has a longer time use than Dead Ringer so why not tbh
believe me, I would want that too, but on the other hand - good spies with dead ringer are already pain in the ass , why make them even harder to kill?

edit: though it could recharge faster
Dead Ringer doesn't work against players who listen to that CRACK-A-BOOM sound.

haffeysucks wrote:

a mini crit is 1.35x the damage, a crit is mostly 3x.
Fixed.

Last edited by NooBesT (2009-06-09 07:23:40)

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Rod Foxx
Warblgarbl
+78|6201|Perth, Australia

NooBesT wrote:

Dead Ringer doesn't work against players who listen to that CRACK-A-BOOM sound.
Yeah i've gotten so used to that sound now that as soon as i hear it i go hunting.

I originally thought it was awesome, but now i find that the only people it really works against are the people who are too stupid to know what's going on anyway. In which case the regular watch would do fine.
Kez
Member
+778|5920|London, UK
Well I use the Dead Ringer religiously and I am disappointed about how the cloak drains completely even when you use it for a second or something. Doesn't seem fair seeing as both cloaks don't drain when you finish with them. Then again that's just my opinion, I prefer Dead Ringer to both of the other cloaks because I can get out of danger.
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

Kptk92 wrote:

Well I use the Dead Ringer religiously and I am disappointed about how the cloak drains completely even when you use it for a second or something. Doesn't seem fair seeing as both cloaks don't drain when you finish with them. Then again that's just my opinion, I prefer Dead Ringer to both of the other cloaks because I can get out of danger.
If it wouldn't drain out, you could just keep switching it on and off and be almost invincible. They fixed it by making it drain completly... What they should have done is have delay between switching it off and on.

Even with the "fix" the Dead Ringer works on most servers.

Last edited by NooBesT (2009-06-09 08:43:32)

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Brasso
member
+1,549|6848

cloak and dagger > dead ringer
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Kez
Member
+778|5920|London, UK

haffeysucks wrote:

cloak and dagger > dead ringer
in your opinion. They're sidegrades. Each have their advantages and disadvantages.
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6373|Vancouver | Canada
While we're on the subject of Spies and up/side-grades...does anyone NOT use the Ambassador?

After your first shot, it retains the accuracy of the old revolver.
It goes through people, letting you kill an Engie and his being-set-up-SG in two shots.
It's a fucking sniper rifle without a scope.
It can get headshots.

The only drawbacks:
It's fuck-ugly.
It shoots a liiiiiiiittle bit slower.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6487
Don't forget that it does less damage too.

But yeah. I always have it equiped.
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6373|Vancouver | Canada
Oh...wasn't aware of that.

But the fact that the original revolver is a handcannon itself, and that the Amb can get crits, still tips the favor to the Amb.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6681|cuntshitlake

It does 15% less damage. I guess if you think every seventh of your hits is not a headshot, you are justified to use the old one.
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NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

But the revolver gets random crits too!

And they do more damage than ambassador's headshots.
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13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|5916
I agree with NooBest.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6848

Kptk92 wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

cloak and dagger > dead ringer
in your opinion. They're sidegrades. Each have their advantages and disadvantages.
yeah
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6681|cuntshitlake

NooBesT wrote:

But the revolver gets random crits too!
8% rite?
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
legionair
back to i-life
+336|6840|EU

NooBesT wrote:

Dead Ringer doesn't work against players who listen to that CRACK-A-BOOM sound.
well, me sux @ listening, although I do try to spycheck every time while pushing the kart
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

DeathUnlimited wrote:

NooBesT wrote:

But the revolver gets random crits too!
8% rite?
Depends on damage you've dealt before.
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0.Andy.0
Member
+2|6084
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s … p?t=892836

All my hats have disappeared, apart from a Mining Helmet. Either it's a fuckup from the most recent steam client/TF2 update, or Valve being jerks and intentionally removing them

Last edited by 0.Andy.0 (2009-06-10 12:17:43)

Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6619|dm_maidenhead
So now people are annoyed that valve are fixing bugs?

Last edited by Peter (2009-06-10 12:29:59)

0.Andy.0
Member
+2|6084
They fixed that bug a few days after the Sniper/Spy update came out. I'm just a bit annoyed that if they did intentionally remove them, why?
We would have got them all at some point anyways, so why bother even removing them? Let the people who already have them keep them, it's not harming anything.

Last edited by 0.Andy.0 (2009-06-10 12:38:10)

DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6373|Vancouver | Canada

Peter wrote:

So now people are annoyed that valve are fixing bugs?
They're fixing the wrong ones, or fucking things up even more.

However...that doesn't mean all updates are bad. 70% of them are great.

Last edited by DefCon-17 (2009-06-10 13:06:51)

Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6619|dm_maidenhead
Yes but the items that are being removed were obtained because of a bug. The only people complaining are those that wrongfully had the items anway
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6373|Vancouver | Canada
Ohhh...well regarding that update: I don't much care either way.

I've idled once or twice, but then decided that was just as stupid as the method of obtaining them, and just played.
0.Andy.0
Member
+2|6084
Actually, quite a few hats that were removed were from people who got them playing normally too, without that bug.
But yes, I'm complaining about it. Still doesn't change the fact that there was no point removing them anyways, since you got them for free with/without the bug present.

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