Only reason I ever mention it is the solly is already carrying two nades and I'd find them entertaining to use. Even if I'd find it pretty hard to give up the shotgun. Me loves me shotgun for the solly.DefCon-17 wrote:
Sticky spamming Demomen are generally easy to kill.
It's those fuckers who can hit a randomly jumping Scout in mid-air with a grenade that get me..
If only one class gets thrown grenades (very limited amount), then I'd be okay with it.
the pyro also has a couple grenades on him.Flecco wrote:
Only reason I ever mention it is the solly is already carrying two nades and I'd find them entertaining to use. Even if I'd find it pretty hard to give up the shotgun. Me loves me shotgun for the solly.DefCon-17 wrote:
Sticky spamming Demomen are generally easy to kill.
It's those fuckers who can hit a randomly jumping Scout in mid-air with a grenade that get me..
If only one class gets thrown grenades (very limited amount), then I'd be okay with it.
You seriously think they'd add anything to the pyro that would force people to use buttons other than w+mouse1?No/Yes wrote:
the pyro also has a couple grenades on him.Flecco wrote:
Only reason I ever mention it is the solly is already carrying two nades and I'd find them entertaining to use. Even if I'd find it pretty hard to give up the shotgun. Me loves me shotgun for the solly.DefCon-17 wrote:
Sticky spamming Demomen are generally easy to kill.
It's those fuckers who can hit a randomly jumping Scout in mid-air with a grenade that get me..
If only one class gets thrown grenades (very limited amount), then I'd be okay with it.
Umm... How so? What is wrong with more unlocks exactly?RavyGravy wrote:
sounds like TF2 is about to set sail for fail.
the helmets are the dumbest fucking idea ever, seriously a spy helmet?, why should i have to delete weapons?, grenades are stupid, you put grenades in and the demo class becomes useless.Flecco wrote:
Umm... How so? What is wrong with more unlocks exactly?RavyGravy wrote:
sounds like TF2 is about to set sail for fail.
A wild Pyro appears!Peter wrote:
Spidery_Yoda: You hit heavy with Sandman. Heavy is confused
Spidery_Yoda: Heavy is confused. Heavy damaged himself.
Spidery_Yoda: You picked up Sandman Ball!
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Lovely word for an essay or maybe an intellectual conversation, but on an an internet message board? That's just going to go over peoples heads faster then a SR-71 Blackbird.Uzique wrote:
pejoratively
The bigger the forum the harder it is to dispose of the rubbish, and so the cancer spreads.Rod Foxx wrote:
Lovely word for an essay or maybe an intellectual conversation, but on an an internet message board? That's just going to go over peoples heads faster then a SR-71 Blackbird.Uzique wrote:
pejoratively
I'm still undecided though as to whether the Gamefaqs or Steam forums are filled with more retards? They all seem to describe this update as the apocalypse and it's so hard to figure out who's trolling and who's sincerely that stupid.
Otherwise i'm quite looking forward to this update. Good, bad or ugly it's certainly going to be interesting.
Did you completely fail to notice that the spy already wears a balaclava and puts on paper masks all the time? He wears more headgear than most classes. Use your imagination Raven they are hardly going to stick a hardhat/kevlar on his head, it will be something more intelligent that fits in with the TF2 art direction.RavyGravy wrote:
the helmets are the dumbest fucking idea ever, seriously a spy helmet?, why should i have to delete weapons?, grenades are stupid, you put grenades in and the demo class becomes useless.Flecco wrote:
Umm... How so? What is wrong with more unlocks exactly?RavyGravy wrote:
sounds like TF2 is about to set sail for fail.
It's not strictly limited to 6v6 in all scenarios, just that forcing 6v6 in competition/LAN/league environments puts more pressure on each member of the team to properly fulfill their team roles. It also places a focus and importance on choosing the right class loadout and having proficient players in 'x' class for 'y' situation. When you only have one medic per team (and thus only one medic combo at any one time), and then normally 2 Soldiers/Demos as a base foundation of attack/defense- then you have to choose your speciality in Heavy/Sniper/Scout(s) very carefully according to which map and strategy the team are taking. It basically just enforces a higher level of gameplay and really tests each individual player and collective team to the max.Flecco wrote:
Did you completely fail to notice that the spy already wears a balaclava and puts on paper masks all the time? He wears more headgear than most classes. Use your imagination Raven they are hardly going to stick a hardhat/kevlar on his head, it will be something more intelligent that fits in with the TF2 art direction.RavyGravy wrote:
the helmets are the dumbest fucking idea ever, seriously a spy helmet?, why should i have to delete weapons?, grenades are stupid, you put grenades in and the demo class becomes useless.Flecco wrote:
Umm... How so? What is wrong with more unlocks exactly?
The deleting weapons is implying that there will be a lot more unlocks so you can tailor them even further to the way you play each class. Last but not least, the deleting idea doesn't mean losing them permanently as obviously valve are going to implement a new system for them.
@ Uzi, one thing I don't understand about the competitive gaming scene of TF2 is why did they limit each side to six members? Sticking to the balanced maps I understand but why not have each team with 8 or 9 members.
Engy and Spy have always been largely regarded as public-server novelties, pubhero classes and nothing much more. When you have 6 people you can't really afford to have one sitting on top of a sentry gun at a certain point in the map 24/7, especially when you're playing against highly-skilled and coordinated teams that could dismantle any sentry nest or Engi trap without having to look twice. Snipers have a very big place; high-skill snipers are lethal in locking down certain points, or picking off Medics and Scouts. Every push and defense hinges on the protection and killing of the Medic(s)- if you have some highly skilled snipers or scouts that can pick off the soft classes that support the big guns, then you can easily push through to the next point and dominate the team. The Heavy has a use in certain maps and situations... again, a good (team) player makes a huge difference in how the class is used and to what effect. I have also seen Pyro's used in matches/mixes quite a few times, they are lethal for ubercharged pushes and for breaking through the other team's medic combos, as well as for point defenses and whatnot. Every class in the game does have a use, it's just that in match situations you have to consider the class-layout of the opposing team and play to their weaknesses-- more often than not, playing Spy/Engi/Pyro will play into their strengths, because if you roll these classes against some of the best Soldiers/Demomen in Europe, you're going to get raped!Flecco wrote:
Fair enough. From what I've heard it's made the heavy, sniper, spy, engy and pyro completely obsolete though.
Prefer being a pub rand and pissing people off with w+mouse1 proskillz tbh.
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