Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
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Fat_Swinub wrote:

Someone tell me how they aren't bored to tears with L4D yet without using the word friends or teamwork.
Tell me how good a game is without telling me the things that make it good

Go!
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Fat_Swinub
jaff
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Good mechanics, good map design, fair learning curbs. I dunno, everything L4D doesn't have.
Brasso
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you just said the things that make it good

Spoiler (highlight to read):
(learning curves)
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Fat_Swinub
jaff
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Really I just want to crack shots at L4D because I haven't enjoyed a game made by valve properly since DoD Source and that went to shit with the orange box update.

Edit:

haffeysucks wrote:

you just said the things that make it good

Spoiler (highlight to read):
(learning curves)
There's this massive limit though. When you're pinned by a zombie there is literally nothing you can do. Skill only gets you so far in a game like that. The learning curb is only as high as you want it to be as numbers tend to beat any mechanics you learn.

Last edited by Fat_Swinub (2009-03-26 17:37:31)

Flecco
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wat...


How can you not enjoy TF2 or L4D... Both are epic if you have a bunch of dudes who will talk on the mic.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Brasso
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Flecco wrote:

wat...


How can you not enjoy TF2 or L4D... Both are epic if you have a bunch of dudes who will talk on the mic.
friends
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Spidery_Yoda
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Well the skill comes in not getting pounced. People can solo (kick bots at the start) the expert campaigns, and that takes incredible skill.

So I disagree there.
Brasso
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soloing the expert campaigns?  dear god, they're a bitch even with 4 humans
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Flecco
iPod is broken.
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haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:

wat...


How can you not enjoy TF2 or L4D... Both are epic if you have a bunch of dudes who will talk on the mic.
friends
Yeah, not just them though. I play TF2 on a well known and popular Australian server which has developed a steam group named after it and a clan named after the server. Great bunch to play with for laughs.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Brasso
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Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:

wat...


How can you not enjoy TF2 or L4D... Both are epic if you have a bunch of dudes who will talk on the mic.
friends
Yeah, not just them though. I play TF2 on a well known and popular Australian server which has developed a steam group named after it and a clan named after the server. Great bunch to play with for laughs.
criminals
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6882|NT, like Mick Dundee

haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


friends
Yeah, not just them though. I play TF2 on a well known and popular Australian server which has developed a steam group named after it and a clan named after the server. Great bunch to play with for laughs.
criminals
Religious fanatics.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Fat_Swinub
jaff
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Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Well the skill comes in not getting pounced. People can solo (kick bots at the start) the expert campaigns, and that takes incredible skill.

So I disagree there.
The game is designed to put you to situations where it's impossible to not get pounced on. If you were to solo through them you'd be at the mercy of a random element, the director to hopefully not give you a bad combo of zombies. I don't doubt that L4D soloing takes skill (I did the expert campaigns with bots up until the finales as they're utterly useless at that point). My point is that skill is always overshadowed by sheer numbers. No amount of skill can get you up from a pounce but an 8 year old with a right mouse button can. The game is designed in such a way that it doesn't reward you or give incentive to be with teammates, it just punishes you if you aren't by having rigid unfun mechanics.

Flecco wrote:

wat...


How can you not enjoy TF2 or L4D... Both are epic if you have a bunch of dudes who will talk on the mic.
The unfun aspects of both games outnumber the mildly fun ones. I also don't play games to talk to people, I just want to play.

Last edited by Fat_Swinub (2009-03-27 01:10:20)

Brasso
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Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:


Yeah, not just them though. I play TF2 on a well known and popular Australian server which has developed a steam group named after it and a clan named after the server. Great bunch to play with for laughs.
criminals
Religious fanatics.
generalize-r
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6882|NT, like Mick Dundee

haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


criminals
Religious fanatics.
generalize-r
You started it. Spoiler (highlight to read):
I was referring to the original colonisers of the USA, not the Palin fan club.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Brasso
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Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:


Religious fanatics.
generalize-r
You started it. Spoiler (highlight to read):
I was referring to the original colonisers of the USA, not the Palin fan club.
i know, i was jest-ing.  i don't know what you're talk-ing about with the Palin fan club thing tho :?
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Flecco
iPod is broken.
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haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


generalize-r
You started it. Spoiler (highlight to read):
I was referring to the original colonisers of the USA, not the Palin fan club.
i know, i was jest-ing.  i don't know what you're talk-ing about with the Palin fan club thing tho :?
Sarah Palin and her fans m8.

Remember her, shitty accent, from Alaska, ran for election with an old dude, actually thinks she could make it into the Whitehouse.
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Uzique
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L4D is shite-boring though, just in principle, the gameplay is tedious and repetitive.
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Brasso
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Flecco wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Flecco wrote:


You started it. Spoiler (highlight to read):
I was referring to the original colonisers of the USA, not the Palin fan club.
i know, i was jest-ing.  i don't know what you're talk-ing about with the Palin fan club thing tho :?
Sarah Palin and her fans m8.

Remember her, shitty accent, from Alaska, ran for election with an old dude, actually thinks she could make it into the Whitehouse.
ohhhh that person.  i faintly remember her, she must've sucked.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Spidery_Yoda
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I think this thread has run its course. Tbh I think the best part was page 1&2 but thats just me.
Fat_Swinub
jaff
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I wanted to turn this thread into a discussion about how the whole ubisoft deal week has been a waste of time for me since I either owned all the games they put on sale or didn't even think they were worth the price at half off (like prince of persia).
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6182|London, England

Fat_Swinub wrote:

I wanted to turn this thread into a discussion about how the whole ubisoft deal week has been a waste of time for me since I either owned all the games they put on sale or didn't even think they were worth the price at half off (like prince of persia).
And Assassins creed
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Spidery_Yoda
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And FarCry 2 which was the worst deal/game by far.

The prices were an absolute joke:

US: $14.99
UK: £17.49 (= $25.45)
Europe: €24.99 (= $34.00)

And the game itself is just terrible too.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-03-28 13:53:55)

Fat_Swinub
jaff
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I just wanted splinter cell double agent for £5 or less. It's the worse in the series but I own all the others and it did have some good points.
Brasso
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I can get SC:DA (360) for $12 shipped.  Go?
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Fat_Swinub
jaff
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I don't have a console so it's PC only and I don't buy games with CD-keys from ebay either.

Last edited by Fat_Swinub (2009-03-28 18:03:51)

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