Just to clear up what I meant I meant it was maybe worded like that so 360 owners don't see the fact that they have a price tag and we don't in the same sentence.Mutantsteak wrote:
just thinking about that makes me want to fucking stab every 360 owner on the planetSpidery_Yoda wrote:
It's worded in a way that implies it'll be charged for. Whether this is so 360 owners don't whine about free PC updates or whether it'll be charged for everyone is unknown. But it's worrying.
Spidery_Yoda wrote:
Just to clear up what I meant I meant it was maybe worded like that so 360 owners don't see the fact that they have a price tag and we don't in the same sentence.Mutantsteak wrote:
just thinking about that makes me want to fucking stab every 360 owner on the planetSpidery_Yoda wrote:
It's worded in a way that implies it'll be charged for. Whether this is so 360 owners don't whine about free PC updates or whether it'll be charged for everyone is unknown. But it's worrying.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s … p?t=798123andyofcomixinc wrote:
As soon as I saw the Edge article, I, in what can only be a drunken mistake, sent this sorta hurtful email to Gabe Newell.
Dear Mr Newell,
When I learned the the Left 4 Dead "Survival Pack" would not be free on PC, this is the moment my faith in democracy died.
Living in Australia, the retail version of Left 4 Dead is and always has been AU$100. On Steam, the current price (including conversion rates) tips around AU$80 - AU$90.
So, assuming this "Survival Pack" is around US$10, I (and many other Australian and probably UK fans) will be paying at least twice this price.
So I guess what I'm really saying is, why? Why not give the "Survival Pack" stuff away for free? The SDK is nice 'n' all, but it seems a right and royal kick to the nuts that I should have to spend AU$120 on a game that people in America are getting for $60.
It reminds me a lot of Fallout 3's "Operation Anchorage" expansion. I was lucky enough to have a friend send me the Installer, but for people who have paid the full AU$20 for ONE NEW QUEST... it's just awful, really.
And same with this "Survival Pack". One new game mode? 2 new maps? Valve has always provided Free Updates... Day of Defeat: Source underwent an engine change, practically changing the whole face of the game... for free. Team Fortress 2 has had more the 50 new achievements added... also for free. Left 4 Dead should be continuing this tradition.
Maybe by Spring my mind would have changed on this issue. But for now, I feel I need some consolance... and if you, or Valve's marketing guys, or Doug "Episode 2's ending was My Idea" Lombardi can't do it... then no-one can.
Thanks for your time,
Enraged Fan
And I got this reply from Gabe:
It’s free as it’s always been.
Needless to say, he showed me.
http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33530180dg5.jpg
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Nice to get a reply about that that clears it up once and for all.
Now why couldn't they have just said that in the first place -.-
Nice to get a reply about that that clears it up once and for all.
Now why couldn't they have just said that in the first place -.-
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Update.Big McLargehuge wrote:
News about the L4d DLC is here!http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=207495The first L4D DLC - called the L4D Survival Pack -- is due for release this spring and introduces a new multiplayer game mode entitled, Survival, plus two complete campaigns for Versus Mode," says the firm. "A Critic's Choice Edition of the game will be heading to retail stores this spring and will include access to all the content introduced in the L4D: Survival Pack. But there's more if you're a PC gamer: "The first Left 4 Dead release for the Source Software Development Kit (Source SDK) will allow the creation of custom Left 4 Dead campaigns that will be discoverable via L4D's matchmaking system." The SDK update is also due this spring and will be free of charge to all owners of the full PC game.
http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=207864As expected, the pack will finally include versus mode versions of the Dead Air and Death Toll campaigns, which after spending hours with just the other two is bound to introduce a big chunk of new fun to the game.
Very nice, I love this game to bits and to hear these things puts a smile on my face
Wonder why they didn't put in Death Toll and Dead Air in the first place
Also, looking forward to Survival Mode. Very much 'Nazi Zombies' on CoD:WaW, right?
Wonder why they didn't put in Death Toll and Dead Air in the first place
Also, looking forward to Survival Mode. Very much 'Nazi Zombies' on CoD:WaW, right?
Kptk92 wrote:
I love this game to bits
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
I'm looking forward to the update too. I'm really hoping for some new campaigns, but I'm a little pessimistic that Valve would put out new campains only a few months after release. But if they don't atleast they're releasing the SDK so we can finally get some custom maps to play.Kptk92 wrote:
Very nice, I love this game to bits and to hear these things puts a smile on my face
Wonder why they didn't put in Death Toll and Dead Air in the first place
Also, looking forward to Survival Mode. Very much 'Nazi Zombies' on CoD:WaW, right?
(Also, I was going to make a thread on how to do local splitscreen, anyone interested or do you all already know?)Finray wrote:
Have to buy this game so I can play multiplayer instead of just singleplayer.
There is a thread of that, by Spidery_Yoda IIRCFinray wrote:
(Also, I was going to make a thread on how to do local splitscreen, anyone interested or do you all already know?)Finray wrote:
Have to buy this game so I can play multiplayer instead of just singleplayer.
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
Honestly, if AI Director wasn't in the game, I'd get bored, but Director is definately the best thing of this game.. everything changes every time or zombies come in their thirties or so at random points.. definately more fun than if they were always in the same placesBig McLargehuge wrote:
I'm looking forward to the update too. I'm really hoping for some new campaigns, but I'm a little pessimistic that Valve would put out new campains only a few months after release. But if they don't atleast they're releasing the SDK so we can finally get some custom maps to play.Kptk92 wrote:
Very nice, I love this game to bits and to hear these things puts a smile on my face
Wonder why they didn't put in Death Toll and Dead Air in the first place
Also, looking forward to Survival Mode. Very much 'Nazi Zombies' on CoD:WaW, right?
Expert is also a completely different game. Rather than rushing in like you would on an easier difficulty, a zombie hits something like 10 or 20 and Tanks and Witches can kill or incap with one hit. The game is far more challenging than ever and the use of the Director every time you play gives you a sense of not knowing what is coming up.
Then you add in Versus Mode and you can play as an Infected or Surviving against an even better challenge in human players, and that makes the game even more satisfying.
Whatever Valve bring out, I'll be sure to enjoy it fully as I know all of us L4D fans will do
yes there is.DeathUnlimited wrote:
There is a thread of that, by Spidery_Yoda IIRCFinray wrote:
(Also, I was going to make a thread on how to do local splitscreen, anyone interested or do you all already know?)Finray wrote:
Have to buy this game so I can play multiplayer instead of just singleplayer.
after expert, versus regular infected are a breeze. it's all up to the special infected tbh.Kptk92 wrote:
Honestly, if AI Director wasn't in the game, I'd get bored, but Director is definately the best thing of this game.. everything changes every time or zombies come in their thirties or so at random points.. definately more fun than if they were always in the same places
Expert is also a completely different game. Rather than rushing in like you would on an easier difficulty, a zombie hits something like 10 or 20 and Tanks and Witches can kill or incap with one hit. The game is far more challenging than ever and the use of the Director every time you play gives you a sense of not knowing what is coming up.
Then you add in Versus Mode and you can play as an Infected or Surviving against an even better challenge in human players, and that makes the game even more satisfying.
Whatever Valve bring out, I'll be sure to enjoy it fully as I know all of us L4D fans will do
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"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
I <3 Valve
Official: Free on the PC and 360.
http://store.steampowered.com/news/2234/
GG Valve. Really put us complainers in their place there
http://store.steampowered.com/news/2234/
GG Valve. Really put us complainers in their place there
Very good (Y)
Survival mode...
Been waiting for that one.
Been waiting for that one.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Survival should be awesome if its what it sounds like, which is sorta like COD5 nazi zombies but way better in pretty much every way.
Mall map for survival mode, does want.
Mall map for survival mode, does want.
Update.
Edit: Five minute video of the new Light House map
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dea … 5139282079
Light House part 2
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dea … 1895163010
No Mercy Elevator
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dea … 8112183012
http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/959/959549p1.htmlIGN has managed to score a hands-on preview of the upcoming Left 4 Dead update, dubbed the Survival Pack. The most important details are that Valve is releasing a Critic's Choice edition of L4D on April 21st, and giving the Survival Pack away to both PC and console gamers "sometime before that date".
Edit: Five minute video of the new Light House map
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dea … 5139282079
Light House part 2
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dea … 1895163010
No Mercy Elevator
http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/left-4-dea … 8112183012
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Hope I'm bumping the right topic here.
Left 4 Dead Survival Pack: April 21
How is everyone going to split their time between this and the new BF2 patch!?!?!?!? This is madness!
Left 4 Dead Survival Pack: April 21
How is everyone going to split their time between this and the new BF2 patch!?!?!?!? This is madness!
"Later in the Day"
And its a good thing my game works
And its a good thing my game works
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What is 2am Pacific in Old World time?
10 AM (GMT-8)Sisco10 wrote:
What is 2am Pacific in Old World time?
No news from Valve?Mutantbear wrote:
"Later in the Day"
And its a good thing my game works
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
it's only 6:30 AM here, and Valve is 3 hours behind me. later in the day means later in the day for yanks; later in the day for THEM actually if you remember past releases.Flecco wrote:
No news from Valve?Mutantbear wrote:
"Later in the Day"
And its a good thing my game works
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Where is iiiiiiiiit? D:
Do I really need to post the valve time link?